<div dir="ltr">Alrighty, so:<br><br><div>1) The import of SA suburb boundaries is now effectively complete<div><br></div><div>2) Minor cleanup work (simplified ways that don't quite join with their other boundaries) remains, but for routing purposes unless someone is on a boat in a river, things should be fairly OK.<br>
These are only an issue for very detailed polygons, and I'm fixing by removing excess nodes.</div><div><br></div><div>3) I had issues with Daw Park, and one or two other areas (regional or existing features), which I'll be cleaning up shortly - either by applying the tags to the existing feature or by manually tracing.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Australian_Suburb_Boundaries">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Australian_Suburb_Boundaries</a> has more detail.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>
</div><div><br></div></div><div>Through work (property valuation) I'm pushing for us to start marking out property developments and share that data.</div><div><br></div><div>We already get access to plans and physically travel out there across the nation, so introducing a tool like vespucchi to record a really rough polygon while in the field isn't too much of a stretch.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively, we can probably find a number of property development companies publishing plans via google or planning alerts, and organize for mappers to go survey in the area.</div><div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://www.planningalerts.org.au/authorities#sa">http://www.planningalerts.org.au/authorities#sa</a> - I wrote a scraper for this some time ago; it might need a bit of attention to get working again (<a href="http://www.planningalerts.org.au/authorities/edala/applications">http://www.planningalerts.org.au/authorities/edala/applications</a> specifically). Presumably you'd only want land area > 1 acre or something to be flagged; as standard resi development stuff isn't going to get a new name.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Walker, Garth (DPTI) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Garth.Walker@sa.gov.au" target="_blank">Garth.Walker@sa.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Daniel, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For our purposes we do use both, but key are suburbs and suburb boundaries.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Particularly of newly created suburbs and residential developments.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’ve seen some of Clockwerx contributions. Keep up the good work.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We have noticed the layers have improved in the last little while.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">
<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Daniel O'Connor [mailto:<a href="mailto:daniel.oconnor@gmail.com" target="_blank">daniel.oconnor@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 28 November 2013 12:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:waldo000000@gmail.com" target="_blank">waldo000000@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Walker, Garth (DPTI); <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">> </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Smaller Shopping Centres, Councils and other places of interest not named.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Garth, when you say Council; do you mean the spatial LGA level description, or even just suburbs/suburb boundaries?<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If its the latter, you might be interested in<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Australian_Suburb_Boundaries" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Australian_Suburb_Boundaries</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">... which is about 300/1800 locations imported so far - hopefully, you should see improvements to routing as a result, particularly in tiny suburbs.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Daniel O'Connor <<a href="mailto:daniel.oconnor@gmail.com" target="_blank">daniel.oconnor@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">With <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">> </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">At the moment, this is a bit painful, but quite possible to fix up manually.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The full extent of the problem is visible through the OSM inspector, highways layer.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=highways&lon=138.53329&lat=-34.91724&zoom=10&overlays=name_missing_major,name_missing_minor,name_fixme" target="_blank">http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=highways&lon=138.53329&lat=-34.91724&zoom=10&overlays=name_missing_major,name_missing_minor,name_fixme</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We actually have the data and explicit permission for this available to us:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://data.sa.gov.au/dataset/roads" target="_blank">http://data.sa.gov.au/dataset/roads</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">... it's just tricky to manually find and name things using tools like QGIS.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I tend to:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> - Load OSMI<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> - Find a dense area of unnamed roads<br> - Manually check and reconcile each one against the shapefile<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">While there might be better ways, and this won't catch roads that "blend" into each other; it's at least a start.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Annoyingly, OSMI refreshes once a week so you don't see much progress.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Would people be interested if I started up a mapcraft job to work on this sort of thing?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/288" target="_blank">http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/288</a> is an example of one doing building mapping - naming roads is probably a lot easier.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:23 PM, <a href="mailto:waldo000000@gmail.com" target="_blank">waldo000000@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:waldo000000@gmail.com" target="_blank">waldo000000@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Exciting to have you on board, Garth. I'm in Brisbane but would be happy to help with 'armchair' tasks if and when they arise. Hope you get a good response from SA mappers.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Roy<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Walker, Garth (DPTI) <<a href="mailto:Garth.Walker@sa.gov.au" target="_blank">Garth.Walker@sa.gov.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I was lucky enough to get in contact with Alex Sims who is the local OSM contact for media here in SA.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I’m working on supporting one of our Public Transport Initiatives Open Trip Planning which uses OSM mapping data, and looking to the community for support to enhance the current mapping data available for metropolitan South Australia.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Currently we’ve identified that there are several areas of OSM which require tagging for pedestrian access, which impacts our open trip planning routing options.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d">Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d">walking paths data not included across many of the highways (North East and Main North Gepps cross) connected to transport infrastructure, such as railway stations, and bus interchanges. Grange is a hot spot, as has been Aldinga, Blackwood and Belair, Mclaren vale ( which looks like its improving) and some areas around </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d">Southern and Northern suburb areas not detailed</span><u></u><u></u></p><p>
<span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d">Smaller Shopping Centres, Councils and other places of interest not named.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I’d be very happy to help as I am also involved with the Government Open Data program at <a href="http://data.sa.gov.au/" target="_blank">http://data.sa.gov.au/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m keen on building some good relationships with contributors and application developers so would like to gather some more support for OSM in South Australia.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hope to hear from you all.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Kind Regards</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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