<p dir="ltr">Hi.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin boundary.</p>
<p dir="ltr">City is not gazetted. E.g. Sydney is a suburb. An address in nearby Pyrmont is not in Sydney (the suburb), so saying it is in a city called Sydney might be confusing.<br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr"> - Ben Kelley.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, "Stéphane Guillou" <<a href="mailto:stephane.guillou@gmail.com">stephane.guillou@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks everyone for your input.<br>
<br>
I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for
countries and states as I understood that the database must be as
human-readable as possible.<br>
Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page
for addr:country=AU.<br>
<br>
However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us
to watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia
says the following:<br>
<br>
"In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as
geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in
<b>
addressing</b>."<br>
<br>
As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging
so the addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when
we write them on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an
address I guess - (in which case I would just go with addr:city=The
Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in
that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane
and addr:suburb=The Gap).<br>
<br>
What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add
guidelines for OSM-AU?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Stéphane (chtfn)<br>
<br>
<div>On 19/01/14 11:04, Ross Scanlon wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I'd
suggest you check this page
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr</a>
<br>
<br>
You'll see that the addr:country is supposed to be:
<br>
<br>
"The ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 two letter country code in upper case."
<br>
<br>
We are talking addresses not is_in.
<br>
<br>
Also addr:state can be either but it tends to be the abbreviation.
<br>
<br>
Cheers
<br>
Ross
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 19/01/14 09:42, cleary wrote:
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I prefer
<br>
state=Queensland
<br>
state_code=QLD
<br>
country=Australia
<br>
country_code=AU
<br>
which I understand is consistent with
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in</a>
<br>
<br>
While there is scope for abbreviations in certain special
identified
<br>
categories, the norm remains that names written in full. It
seems to me
<br>
that the "state", "state_code", "country" and "country_code"
tags make
<br>
adequate provision for both.
<br>
<br>
<br>
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