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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/05/2014 4:22 PM, David Bannon
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No, no Steve, I worded my last letter really badly and totally apologise
if I unintentionally offended anyone. My comment related specifically to
your line -
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm"><span class="st">Alan Greenspan — '
<em>I know you think you</em> understand what <em>you</em>
thought I <em>said</em> but I'm not sure <em>you</em> realize
that what <em>you</em> heard is not what I meant'<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm"><span class="st"></span>Anyone who
has been on the internet
for a while will realise that anything can and will be
misconstrued.
No one should take it personally!<br>
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I meant leave the 'grey' areas to the survey people. There are
many
roads (and particularly tracks) that cannot been seen clearly on
the
imagery, and many more where some parts cannot be seen. I'd rather
the
people working with imagery or other non (recent) survey data such
as
Vic Maps did not make "educated guesses" but go and have a look,
or ask
some else to go and have a look.</blockquote>
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<p>Humm .. there are places I've been before GPS... One example:<br>
I
know the road is there as I've been on it. However it is now
closed
for vehicles - inside a National Park. I've mapped bits of it
into OSM as it may be of use to walkers. The bit I cannot 'see'
with
imagery I've connected with very apparent straight lines. I do
have
copyright maps of the area but I'm not looking at those now (they
were current when I was there ... many years ago!). I'm not going
back there, I've many other (new to me) places to go. Nor would I
request someone to go there. Someone probably will go there .. but
I'll leave their interest and trip up to them. So I'm adding stuff
that I think is of use, an indication rather than accurate in some
places .. but those bits are straight lines and anyone who knows
the area will know that those are not 'truth'. <br>
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For places
I've not been to yet and have an interest in .. I'll map the bits
I
can see. So I can use the OSM map better when I get there. I do
have
current maps of those areas too .. with written descriptions and
photos .. but I don't use those to put info on OSM either.Nor do I
connect th ebits .. as I don't know that they are connected (yet).
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I have had a road (into a new estate) removed, apparently because
it did
not show up on Bing.<br>
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I'm against removing stuff of any description .. unless you really
know it is not there. And as you say the only way to 'know' is to
got there (or have been before, even then things change). Same for
changing it, don't change unless you 'know'. <br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm">I've been deleting the tag
"name={Unnamed]" and adding the tag "unsigned=yes",
in one case I 'know' the roads name .. but my source I remember as
a
street directory . So I cannot use it untill the memory fades a
bit more. In most cases I've been past
some of the roads .. and there is no street sign (indeed most have
no
power poles nor street lighting). In this case I think it can be
changed without 'knowing' as the intent is clear - there is no
local
sign to get a name from .. at least not when the tag was added. <br>
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So
.. my take as always <br>
Rules were made for the guidance of the wise,<br>
and the
obedience of fools. <br>
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To be wise though you have to know the
intent, and ramifications ... becarefull as to where you place
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