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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11-Jan-17 03:46 PM, Eon4wd wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is my first time so not exactly sure
of protocols and procedures.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have been out mapping in my area by
survey.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have particular interest in 4wd tracks
and bush camping access.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have some questions that I am not sure
how to handle<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are a number of tracks marked in
bushland. I assume most by people looking at Bing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure how to reference or if there
is an id system but one example is at the following lat and
long<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">S37.752339<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">E144.075093</p>
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<p>Looks like way <a class="way highway track"
title="highway=track"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/319202537">319202537 </a>changeset
27746285 .. source Mapbox;OpenStreetMap GPS traces;Local GPX</p>
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see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27746285">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27746285</a></p>
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The courteous thing to do is to contact the mapper ... you do that
best through the above changeset. <br>
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<p>Give it 2 weeks for a response, they may no longer be active. No
response .. then you have to consider what to do by yourself. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most tracks in this area, as labelled
‘highway=track’ in OSM, are formed by motor bikes and are only
suitable for motorbikes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are signs up saying that all vehicles
must keep to formed roads. If a motor bike was caught by
police on these tracks they would be fined.</p>
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The argument could be that these tracks were formed before the sign
went up? <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cars can not fit on these tracks. They
could be used by mountain bikes or walkers but not very
suitable for either as the motorbikes have created the track
because of the challenge ie over a disused mullock heap from
an abandoned mine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As I see it, these should not be listed as
a track. But do I delete them? Or label them as something
else?</p>
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<p>If they are not wide enough for a small 4WD then they are not
'track' width .. path could be a good tag.</p>
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<p>The OSM wiki can be helpful from time to time.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath</a> <br>
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<p>I would have no problem with a path that allows, or is used by
motorcycles ... fairly common in other parts of the world too
(Asia, Africa for two). <br>
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<p>The access tag can also be applied. </p>
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Who is responsible for the area? Should be on a sign ... possibly
the one saying vehicles must be kept to a formed road. I'd
contact them for their take on these trails. </p>
<p>access=no bans all .. including walkers. motorcycle=no only bands
motorcycle. motor_vehicle=no bans motor vehicles - including
motorcycles. <br>
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<p>I deleted stuff in my early days ... don't do it. I was going
back and re adding much of it afterwards! <br>
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<p>Much better it to change the tag.. <br>
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<p>nonexistant:*=* will result in it disappearing from the rendered
maps ... but it will still be in the data base so it can easily be
recovered. <br>
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<p>You might consider adding surface= ?unpaved or more specific if
consistent along the length soil? rock? <br>
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<p>Good Luck. <br>
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