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<p>There was some movement in QLD right at the end of last year, but
I haven't heard back from the contact after an initial exchange. I
pinged them yesterday to see if we can do anything more etc., but
as has been pointed out these things tend to take some time
(which is universally true not just in Australia).</p>
<p>Simon<br>
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<div>> The Department will not provide the data under an Open
Database license. It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is
sufficient for use of our data.</div>
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<div>Am I missing something, I didn't think we were asking
anyone to relicense their data under the ODbL, just to accept
our understanding of one clause (Section 3(a)(1)) and waive
another (Section 2(a)(5)(B)). Are DNRM misunderstanding what
we are requesting?</div>
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<div>The second line of the waiver says:<br>
> [Entity] waives Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC BY 4.0
license as to OpenStreetMap and its users with the
understanding that the Open Database License 1.0 requires open
access or parallel distribution of OpenStreetMap data.<br>
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Section 2(a)(5)(B) says:<br>
> No downstream restrictions. You may not offer or impose
any additional or different terms or conditions on, or apply
any Effective Technological Measures to, the Licensed Material
if doing so restricts exercise of the Licensed Rights by any
recipient of the Licensed Material.</div>
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<div>Aren't we (OSMF) just asking the copyright owner to waive
their rights to this clause to allow downstream users of the
collective OSM data so that for example it could be put on a
Bluray disc. Their data would still be CCBY licensed, and the
OSM data would be a mix of ODbL and CCBY licensed data?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM Jonathon
Rossi <<a href="mailto:jono@jonorossi.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">jono@jonorossi.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I also want to make use of the QLD DCDB and
was going to start a new thread on the mailing list
about it today to work out how to get out of this
stalemate after Andrew Davidson informed me last week.
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<div>It appears Andrew Harvey just recently had great
luck with Victoria DELWP signing the waiver and on a
corporate letterhead. AndrewH was that luck and are
there any insights that you could assist us with here
that might help us convince QLD DNRM?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM
Andrew Davidson <<a
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<div dir="ltr">It's a known problem with a
difference of opinion between the Queensland
Government and OSM as to licence compatibility.
See this thread for example:
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at 3:34 PM, Satuim <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>Hey everyone,</p>
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<p>I recently asked for permission
to use a CC-BY 4.0 dataset but got
rejected. The dataset I want to
use is fairly important
(boundaries for suburbs and
counties for QLD).</p>
<p>Here is the response I got:</p>
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<p>The Department will not provide
the data under an Open Database
license. It is our belief that a
CC:BY licence is sufficient for
use of our data.</p>
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