<div dir="ltr"><div>> The Department will not provide the data under an Open Database license. It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is sufficient for use of our data.</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing something, I didn't think we were asking anyone to relicense their data under the ODbL, just to accept our understanding of one clause (Section 3(a)(1)) and waive another (Section 2(a)(5)(B)). Are DNRM misunderstanding what we are requesting?</div><div><br></div><div>The second line of the waiver says:<br>> [Entity] waives Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC BY 4.0 license as to OpenStreetMap and its users with the understanding that the Open Database License 1.0 requires open access or parallel distribution of OpenStreetMap data.<br><br>Section 2(a)(5)(B) says:<br>> No downstream restrictions. You may not offer or impose any additional or different terms or conditions on, or apply any Effective Technological Measures to, the Licensed Material if doing so restricts exercise of the Licensed Rights by any recipient of the Licensed Material.</div><div><br></div><div>Aren't we (OSMF) just asking the copyright owner to waive their rights to this clause to allow downstream users of the collective OSM data so that for example it could be put on a Bluray disc. Their data would still be CCBY licensed, and the OSM data would be a mix of ODbL and CCBY licensed data?</div><div><br></div><div>/cc Simon Poole</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM Jonathon Rossi <<a href="mailto:jono@jonorossi.com">jono@jonorossi.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I also want to make use of the QLD DCDB and was going to start a new thread on the mailing list about it today to work out how to get out of this stalemate after Andrew Davidson informed me last week.<div><br></div><div>It appears Andrew Harvey just recently had great luck with Victoria DELWP signing the waiver and on a corporate letterhead. AndrewH was that luck and are there any insights that you could assist us with here that might help us convince QLD DNRM?</div><div><br></div><div>Jono</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM Andrew Davidson <<a href="mailto:theswavu@gmail.com" target="_blank">theswavu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It's a known problem with a difference of opinion between the Queensland Government and OSM as to licence compatibility. See this thread for example:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-au@openstreetmap.org/msg10883.html" target="_blank">https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-au@openstreetmap.org/msg10883.html</a><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Satuim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:95.5.radio@gmail.com" target="_blank">95.5.radio@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hey everyone,</p>
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<p>I recently asked for permission to use a CC-BY 4.0 dataset
but got rejected. The dataset I want to use is fairly
important (boundaries for suburbs and counties for QLD).</p>
<p>Here is the response I got:</p>
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<p>The Department will not provide the data under an Open
Database license. It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is
sufficient for use of our data.</p>
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