<div dir="ltr">Joel,<div><br></div><div>Did you get a response from DNRM? Are you still in talks with them?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:07 PM Jonathon Rossi <<a href="mailto:jono@jonorossi.com">jono@jonorossi.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Great to hear Joel, I was actually wondering last night if you'd already sent this off.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not an expert in this area so happy for others to correct me, however my reading of your description of the second section that DNRM needs to waive doesn't explain to someone not familiar with what we are requesting, I think DNRM staff are likely to think this is still too hard and push back yet again. I like <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/df/NSW_GNB_170427_OpenStreetMap.pdf" target="_blank">Andrew Harvey's description here</a> of both sections including the extended part of section 2, maybe he will give permission to use his description.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding who has signed the waiver:</div><div>- According to the contributors page for <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission" target="_blank">BCC</a> it appears they haven't signed the waiver because it didn't exist until early 2017 but it appears they gave explicit permission to incorporate and publish their CC-BY data under an ODbL, more than the waiver requires<br></div><div>- The explicit permission from NSW Land and Property Information sounds the same as the BCC one giving more permission than OSMF now needs<br></div><div>- The NSW Geographical Name Register have <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/df/NSW_GNB_170427_OpenStreetMap.pdf" target="_blank">signed the waiver</a></div><div>- Victoria DELWP have <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/e/ed/Vicmap_CCBYPermission_OSM_Final_Jan2018_Ltr.pdf" target="_blank">signed the waiver</a></div><div>- SA and MRWA seem to have explicitly agreed with the same sort of thing BCC and NSW LPI did</div><div><div><br></div><div>I don't know if there was some sort of informal/old waiver or explicit permission template because the older ones are pretty similar, they obviously aren't explicit about Section 2(a)(5)(B) though. If that is the case I'd amend your list of who has signed the waiver, maybe even consider linking to the NSW GNR and Victoria DELWP signed waivers proving the claim.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps, Jono</div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:09 PM Joel H. <<a href="mailto:95.5.radio@gmail.com" target="_blank">95.5.radio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi All! I have made a response to DNRM, regarding the licensing
for locality boarders. Please give a critique before I send!<br>
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<p><i>Hello [NAME],</i><i><br>
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</i><i>Thank you for your time and consideration regarding the
approval for OpenStreetMap.</i><i><br>
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</i><i>As a response to your concern over the licence change, it
isn’t necessary for DNRM data to be re-licenced as a result of
usage in OpenStreetMap. It’s simply about signing a waiver to
clarify minor differences in licences. Approving usage in OSM
shouldn’t tamper with the goals of DNRM since OSM uses a very
similar licence with many of the same philosophical views.</i><i><br>
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</i><i>The first part that needs approval is whether or not you
think our method of Attribution, is sufficient with the
“reasonable manner” requirement of the CC-BY 4.0. We credit
sources through the following page:
<a class="m_757410680935543674m_-8501875726109946626moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors</a>, It’s also
possible to add sources to the objects which are DNRM’s data.</i><i><br>
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</i><i>The second is to waive Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC</i><i><br>
</i><i>BY 4.0 license as to OpenStreetMap and its users with the
understanding that</i><i><br>
</i><i>the Open Database License 1.0 requires open access or
parallel distribution of</i><i><br>
</i><i>OpenStreetMap data.</i><i><br>
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</i><i>Many organisations such as Brisbane City Council and New
South Wales Land and Property Information, have already given
permission in the same way that DNRM could.</i><i><br>
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</i><i>I hope you take the time to reconsider. I’ve attached the
PDF that is needed for your review, keep in touch.</i><i><br>
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</i><i>Joel Hansen</i><i><br>
</i><i>Local OpenStreetMap Editor</i><br>
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