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    <p class="MsoNormal">| In some situations, especially on off-ramps,
      there isn’t any speed limit sign at the beginning of the link only
      at the end of it or in the</p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"> | middle. I observed that in these situations
      the speed limit of the motorway is added on the first part of the
      link. Because this is the</p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"> | predominant way of adding speed limit on
      links, we will map in the same way: if there isn’t a speed limit
      sign at the beginning of the link</p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"> | we will add the speed limit of the motorway
      and other speed limit that occurs along the link. If there is a
      speed limit sign at the beginning | of the link (e.g.SL60 in our
      example) we will add the speed limit in the way you mentioned (60
      then 100).<o:p></o:p></p>
    <p><br>
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    <p>What you've said is correct for off ramps but would be incorrect
      for on ramps.</p>
    <p>The on ramp speed limit may be determined from the adjoining
      road(s), as the last speed limit sign is the applicable limit
      until you pass another sign.</p>
    <p>So in the example given if the 60 sign was not on the link the
      applicable limit would be what it was for Warwick Road, which from
      memory is 70 near that underpass, and this would be the limit up
      to the 60 sign.</p>
    <p>So for this link it should be 70 - 60 - 100 as you go past the 60
      and 100 signs.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers</p>
    <p>Ross</p>
    <p><br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/03/19 02:11, Lacramioara Maghiar
      - (p) wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your response! <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I got 80 from the trunk way from which the
          motorway link leaves.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">In some situations, especially on
          off-ramps, there isn’t any speed limit sign at the beginning
          of the link only at the end of it or in the middle. I observed
          that in these situations the speed limit of the motorway is
          added on the first part of the link. Because this is the
          predominant way of adding speed limit on links, we will map in
          the same way: if there isn’t a speed limit sign at the
          beginning of the link we will add the speed limit of the
          motorway and other speed limit that occurs along the link. If
          there is a speed limit sign at the beginning of the link
          (e.g.SL60 in our example) we will add the speed limit in the
          way you mentioned (60 then 100).<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Lacri<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Graeme Fitzpatrick
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com"><graemefitz1@gmail.com></a> <br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:19 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Lacramioara Maghiar - (p)
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lacramioara.maghiar@telenav.com"><lacramioara.maghiar@telenav.com></a><br>
          <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Editing speed limit in Australia<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Lacri  <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 21:56,
                  Lacramioara Maghiar - (p) <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:lacramioara.maghiar@telenav.com">lacramioara.maghiar@telenav.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                      all,<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m
                      writing you regarding the speed limit mapping in
                      Australia.
                      <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Specifically,
                      how would you add the speed limit on a motorway
                      link where the speed limit sign appears in the
                      field towards the end/in the middle of the link?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">In Qld at least (& I think
                    Aust-wide) speed limits officially change at the
                    sign - you may start accelerating as you pass it,
                    not before; but you must start slowing early so
                    you're at the lower limit as you pass the sign.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Please
                      take a look at the following example:
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                      Here, there is a speed limit sign of 100 (SL100
                      hereafter) in the middle of the motorway link. You
                      can see the sign here:
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In
                      which way would you add the speed limit
                      information in the above-mentioned case:
                      <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        maxspeed=80 until the SL100 sign and
                        maxspeed=100 until the end of the link? <o:p>
                        </o:p></li>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure where you got 80 from?
                  I can only see a 60 sign at the start of the link <a
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                  & speed then jumps to 100 just before merging out
                  onto the Cunningham Highway  <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        maxspeed=80 represents the speed limit of the
                        trunk way from which the motorway link leaves.<o:p></o:p></li>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Welcome to Australian roads! Just
                  because it's a trunk road, doesn't necessarily mean
                  it's got an appropriate speed limit :-(<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        nothing until the SL100 sign but maxspeed=100
                        starting with the appearance of the sign in the
                        field?<o:p></o:p></li>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">60, not "nothing" between the 2
                  signs, then 100.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hope that helps!<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                  Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Graeme<o:p></o:p></p>
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