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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">As a supporter of OSM and a
        regular user of NSW public transport, I am pleased to see this
        development.<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">I have a question in regard to use
        of TfNSW data in OSM. At the moment the list of data sources on
        the Contributors page in the OSM wiki does not include TfNSW
        data as an approved source. (<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data)</a>   
        If you represent the owners of the data, I presume there is no
        copyright issue with any data you add to OSM.  I am interested
        in using NSW Transport data for (1) sourcing bus stop numbers
        and (2) identifying rural railway stations which continue to
        offer services as distinct from those that are now un-used.  I
        am unsure of the copyright restrictions on TfNSW data.  Is it
        possible for your branch to obtain/grant approval for OSM
        editors to use TfNSW data and have this information added to the
        Contributors page of the wiki? </div>
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      Probably a different section. And the government may be in
      'caretaker mode' so things are unlikely to occur between now and
      the end of the state election. <br>
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      CC by 4.0 copyright does not let OSM use it... see
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a><br>
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      If OSM obtains a specific waver then it may be possible to do a
      bulk import of data into OSM using GTFS?<br>
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    </font><font face="Arial"><span class="st">The GTFS stuff is
        preferable as it avoids human errors (though open to software
        errors) and can be updated very rapidly. <br>
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        Anyway - welcome to the Au talking list 'hand of God'.<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, at 8:55 AM,
        Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote:<br>
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                    style="font-size:10pt" class="size">Hi all,</span></span></span><span
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                    style="font-size:10pt" class="size">My name is
                    Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW
                    (TfNSW) Data Services team which is a small but
                    dedicated group which underpin the many digital
                    products and projects that form part of TfNSW as a
                    whole. The team are responsible for sourcing,
                    managing and providing data with an emphasis on
                    quality and efficiency.</span></span></span><span
                style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)" class="colour"></span></span><br>
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                    style="font-size:10pt" class="size">The TfNSW Data
                    Services team aim to contribute and help improve
                    OpenStreetMap, which we started to use in our
                    products like the TfNSW Trip Planner (<a
                      href="https://transportnsw.info/trip#/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="color:windowtext" class="colour">https://transportnsw.info/trip#/</span></a>)
                    from the end of 2018, through review and updates
                    that are identified as part of their wide reaching
                    day-to-day activities, feedback from their extensive
                    network of customer/public facing channels, and
                    other TfNSW internal stakeholders.</span></span></span><span
                style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)" class="colour"></span></span><br>
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                    style="font-size:10pt" class="size">You can find
                    further information on our wiki page<span
                      class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="color:windowtext" class="colour">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW</span></a></span></span></span><span
                style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)" class="colour"></span></span><br>
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                    style="font-size:10pt" class="size">Please don’t
                    hesitate to contact me on<span
                      class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:Sigurjon.Runarsson@transport.nsw.gov.au"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="color:windowtext" class="colour">Sigurjon.Runarsson@transport.nsw.gov.au</span></a>,<span
                      class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="color:windowtext" class="colour">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11</span></a><span
                      class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"> </span>or
                    use our group mailbox and another member of the team
                    will endeavour to help you:<span
                      class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="mailto:timetable@transport.nsw.gov.au"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="color:windowtext" class="colour">timetable@transport.nsw.gov.au</span></a></span></span></span><span
                style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)" class="colour"></span></span><br>
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                    style="font-size:10pt" class="size">Thanks,</span></span></span><span
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