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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It is great to have joined the au list!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Warin is correct in that CC by 4.0 licence does not allow data to be added to OSM but as for our team we are going to be pushing for waver on datasets particular
related to trip planning. That would include the transit stops and gtfs data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Warin [mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 14 March 2019 5:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> talk-au@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14/03/19 16:17, cleary wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As a supporter of OSM and a regular user of NSW public transport, I am pleased to see this development.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I have a question in regard to use of TfNSW data in OSM. At the moment the list of data sources on the Contributors page in the OSM wiki does not include TfNSW data as an approved source. (<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data)</a>
If you represent the owners of the data, I presume there is no copyright issue with any data you add to OSM. I am interested in using NSW Transport data for (1) sourcing bus stop numbers and (2) identifying rural railway stations which continue to offer services
as distinct from those that are now un-used. I am unsure of the copyright restrictions on TfNSW data. Is it possible for your branch to obtain/grant approval for OSM editors to use TfNSW data and have this information added to the Contributors page of the
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Probably a different section. And the government may be in 'caretaker mode' so things are unlikely to occur between now and the end of the state election.
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CC by 4.0 copyright does not let OSM use it... see <a href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/">
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a><br>
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If OSM obtains a specific waver then it may be possible to do a bulk import of data into OSM using GTFS?<br>
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<span class="st">The GTFS stuff is preferable as it avoids human errors (though open to software errors) and can be updated very rapidly.
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<span class="st">Anyway - welcome to the Au talking list 'hand of God'.</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, at 8:55 AM, Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">Hi all,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">My name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW (TfNSW) Data Services team which is a small but dedicated group which underpin the many
digital products and projects that form part of TfNSW as a whole. The team are responsible for sourcing, managing and providing data with an emphasis on quality and efficiency.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">The TfNSW Data Services team aim to contribute and help improve OpenStreetMap, which we started to use in our products like the TfNSW Trip Planner
(<a href="https://transportnsw.info/trip#/"><span class="colour"><span style="color:windowtext">https://transportnsw.info/trip#/</span></span></a>) from the end of 2018, through review and updates that are identified as part of their wide reaching day-to-day
activities, feedback from their extensive network of customer/public facing channels, and other TfNSW internal stakeholders.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">You can find further information on our wiki page</span></span><span class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"> </span></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW"><span class="colour"><span style="color:windowtext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW</span></span></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">Please don’t hesitate to contact me on</span></span><span class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"> </span></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"><a href="mailto:Sigurjon.Runarsson@transport.nsw.gov.au"><span class="colour"><span style="color:windowtext">Sigurjon.Runarsson@transport.nsw.gov.au</span></span></a>,</span></span><span class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"> </span></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11"><span class="colour"><span style="color:windowtext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11</span></span></a></span></span><span class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"> </span></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">or
use our group mailbox and another member of the team will endeavour to help you:</span></span><span class="fastmail-quoted-apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"> </span></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"><a href="mailto:timetable@transport.nsw.gov.au"><span class="colour"><span style="color:windowtext">timetable@transport.nsw.gov.au</span></span></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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