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<p>I wish you and us all good luck with that waver endeavour. </p>
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On 15/03/19 15:55, Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote:<br>
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is great to have joined the au list!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Warin
is correct in that CC by 4.0 licence does not allow data to
be added to OSM but as for our team we are going to be
pushing for waver on datasets particular related to trip
planning. That would include the transit stops and gtfs
data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We
will of course keep you informed on any developments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> Warin [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 14 March 2019 5:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14/03/19 16:17, cleary wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As
a supporter of OSM and a regular user of NSW public
transport, I am pleased to see this development.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
have a question in regard to use of TfNSW data in OSM.
At the moment the list of data sources on the
Contributors page in the OSM wiki does not include TfNSW
data as an approved source. (<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data)</a>
If you represent the owners of the data, I presume there
is no copyright issue with any data you add to OSM. I
am interested in using NSW Transport data for (1)
sourcing bus stop numbers and (2) identifying rural
railway stations which continue to offer services as
distinct from those that are now un-used. I am unsure
of the copyright restrictions on TfNSW data. Is it
possible for your branch to obtain/grant approval for
OSM editors to use TfNSW data and have this information
added to the Contributors page of the wiki? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Probably a different section. And the government may be in
'caretaker mode' so things are unlikely to occur between now
and the end of the state election.
<br>
<br>
CC by 4.0 copyright does not let OSM use it... see <a
href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a><br>
<br>
If OSM obtains a specific waver then it may be possible to
do a bulk import of data into OSM using GTFS?<br>
<br>
<span class="st">The GTFS stuff is preferable as it avoids
human errors (though open to software errors) and can be
updated very rapidly.
</span><br>
<br>
<span class="st">Anyway - welcome to the Au talking list
'hand of God'.</span><br>
</span><br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Thu, 14 Mar 2019, at 8:55 AM, Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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all,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="fastmail-quoted-msonormal1"
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class="size"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">My
name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW
(TfNSW) Data Services team which is a small but
dedicated group which underpin the many digital
products and projects that form part of TfNSW as a
whole. The team are responsible for sourcing, managing
and providing data with an emphasis on quality and
efficiency.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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class="size"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">The
TfNSW Data Services team aim to contribute and help
improve OpenStreetMap, which we started to use in our
products like the TfNSW Trip Planner (<a
href="https://transportnsw.info/trip#/"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span class="colour"><span
style="color:windowtext">https://transportnsw.info/trip#/</span></span></a>)
from the end of 2018, through review and updates that
are identified as part of their wide reaching
day-to-day activities, feedback from their extensive
network of customer/public facing channels, and other
TfNSW internal stakeholders.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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don’t hesitate to contact me on</span></span><span
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class="size"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">or
use our group mailbox and another member of the team
will endeavour to help you:</span></span><span
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