<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not really concerned with the term. Or even wanting to discuss the philosophical arguments behind it. Happy to use a different word if that keeps the discussion focussed. Although, personally I don't think we should be frightened of it. What we're doing here is self-censorship to protect vulnerable groups and sites - and we're comfortable with that.</div><div><br></div><div>As to the practical nature of this discussion, we don't seem to have many answers. This just seems to be call to mappers to take care and consider the impact of what they are mapping to the site. And if that's it, I'm fine with that. </div><div><br></div><div>The assumption that there is a group with one voice that we can use as guiding and authoritative I don't think extends to many of these sites. The notion of advertising and signposting is interesting, especially with those sites that are well documented in guidebooks, blogs, etc, but locally unsigned. If I see a site that has been mapped, I can't actually figure out how I could tell if I should remove it or not. And as nothing in OSM is every really deleted, should we have a policy to redact it? </div><div><br></div><div>But again, as many of these sites are available to anyone willing to spend half an hour in a public library, it may be sufficient to just have this as a guideline to mappers, and just add a thin layer of obscurity that seems sufficient to reduce the risk from the instagrammers, etc. If that's the aim.</div><div><br></div><div>Ian.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 19:39, Rory McCann <<a href="mailto:rory@technomancy.org">rory@technomancy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 01/04/2019 12:27, Ian Sergeant wrote:<br>
> is this form of censorship practised anywhere else in OSM - maybe for <br>
> other indigenous people - that we could copy their model?<br>
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I don't think "censorship" is a helpful term here.<br>
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But there has been a practice in OSM to *not* map certain things, such <br>
as private/non-publicized domestic violence shelters, or the nesting <br>
sites of endangered birds. So the same logic applies here I think.<br>
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