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<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I'd like to say that the test import looks very impressive on the
map. Thank you for your effort on this.</p>
<p>Are there guidelines how to mark the import in the changeset? Not
having read up on it but I would think the changeset should
reference the wiki page for the import?<br>
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<p>For those who are interested in the import, see the wiki here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Hobsons_Bay_City_Council">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Hobsons_Bay_City_Council</a></p>
<p>Cheers, Seb<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/4/19 10:45 pm, David Sisourath
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Andrew, I have looked at all of the
tags in the raw data and have created a Python file to process
this.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have considered the ‘Unknown’, ‘Not
Applicable’ and also removed the trees where they are ‘stumps’
or ‘vacant’.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The data is linked here:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-80051ffe-04d5-4602-b15b-60e0d0e3d153/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-80051ffe-04d5-4602-b15b-60e0d0e3d153/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have actually proceeded with a test
import on a small area in Seabrook. A reason why I think a
source tag would be useful is the identification of imported
trees in subsequent updates from Council being imported.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I note that this test import is easily
reversible by me if plans do not eventuate.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The test import changeset is here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/69182499#map=16/-37.8860/144.7627"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/69182499#map=16/-37.8860/144.7627</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also, there is a non-existent boundary
through Seabrook Primary School that renders on Mapnik. I
noticed this during the test import and am unsure of the issue
here.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">David<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Andrew
Harvey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com"><andrew.harvey4@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:56:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Sisourath<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Importing Hobsons Bay City
Council tree data into OSM</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Great working on sourcing those waivers!
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<div>Do you either have a sample .osm file or could you post
an example of what tags/values will be imported? Can you say
anything further about how you will transform the data? ie.
removing "Unknown" values etc.</div>
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<div>Regarding the source tag, I think it must be on the
changeset, but can optionally be on each object as well. It
was once pointed out to me that the source on the object may
lead to editors thinking they can't change/touch the object,
and it can also be misleading when changes subsequently
happen. Mind you, I still add source, source:geometry,
source:name etc. tags where I feel it's appropriate
manually, I just don't think it's essential to have them on
each object.</div>
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<div>Feel free to post a link to this thread <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-April/012577.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-April/012577.html</a> as
a changeset tag or comment to help link the import back to
this discussion.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at
15:35, David Sisourath <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I intend to import tree data in the
Hobsons Bay LGA into OSM.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The data has been verified by
myself with aerial imagery and DELWP/VicMap
boundaries.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I will be importing small squares
of data at a time, including the tree circumference,
species (if known) or genus (if species unknown). Tree
circumference in the data are grouped by ranges of
150mm. I have taken the maximum of these ranges to be
the circumference in my code.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A source tag will be attached to
each tree node imported, source=data.gov.au:Hobsons
Bay City Council, and also on the relevant changesets.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A waiver has been signed by Hobsons
Bay and is available on both the Australian Data
Catalogue page and the
<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Hobsons_Bay_City_Council_data"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
Contributors</a> page.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any questions or feedback regarding
the import would be highly appreciated, including
whether the approach to the circumference tag, and
source tag is acceptable.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">David</p>
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