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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/04/19 18:21, Andrew Harvey wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Signage is up, platforms are open. In order to
have our data ready and useful for customers from day one
I've changed the rail related features to no longer in
construction and added an opening_date tag so data consumers
know if opened yet or not (OpenStreetBrowser uses this tag).
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<div>Master route relation for the line</div>
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<div>Then two routes, one for each direction </div>
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This one passes OSMInspector tests.<br>
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This one failed - unordered gap. I have repaired it.. good enough to
be usable. <br>
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Possibly the trains will not change to the other platform at
Tallawong where they terminate, but for the moment in OSM they do.
This will become clear when they start operating. <br>
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<div>A lot of the roads around the new stations are still
tagged construction, let's try to keep a close eye on them
opening up to the public.</div>
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If you change the tags from highway=construction, teh tag
construction=* should be removed .. leaving it there causes
confusion.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 17:46,
Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">Testing has already commenced for a while now,
just the other day I saw the metro train come into
Chatswood, then leave again. It's hard to justify the tracks
themselves being in construction when trains are running...
In fact I used this justification to change the lines over,
but keen to change over the stations.
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<div><a
href="https://7news.com.au/politics/nsw/sydney-to-unveil-first-line-of-brand-new-metro-network-after-seven-years-of-work-c-42494"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://7news.com.au/politics/nsw/sydney-to-unveil-first-line-of-brand-new-metro-network-after-seven-years-of-work-c-42494</a> says
to open within a month.<br>
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May 5th.<br>
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<div>With the opening_date key, even if it gets pushed back
we can just revise the date. I'm still in the camp that
stations and lines can be out of construction even if
there are no scheduled services running yet.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at
16:40, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 09/04/19 10:13,
Andrew Harvey wrote:<br>
> I know TfNSW will not be able to confirm, but rumour
out there is the <br>
> Metro will start operating early May.<br>
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> Given this, and that many OSM data consumers rely on
offline extracts, <br>
> and given it's accepted practice to only mark things
as construction <br>
> when they span months, I'd like to start migrating
the tags for the <br>
> Metro over from construction to operational, adding
in provisional <br>
> opening_date <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_date"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_date</a><br>
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> Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Yes/no?<br>
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How reliable is this 'rumour'?<br>
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Possibly the 'rumour' is when testing will commence..
rather than <br>
regular customer operations?<br>
Report in Aug 2018 said no earlier than 5 th May... so it
is possible.<br>
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There .. having said all that it is now certain to start
early May:))<br>
Despite that.. I'd not add it until we have official
confirmation... <br>
don't want to jinx it.<br>
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