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Hi Mateusz,<br>
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One of the NSW signs is on this page:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/heavy-vehicles/index.html">https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/heavy-vehicles/index.html</a><br>
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Some other variations can be seen in these OpenStreetCam images.<br>
Note that OpenStreetCam sometimes crops the edges of the images,
depending on the aspect ratio of your browser window. Resizing the
window, or clicking and dragging the image will allow you to see the
edges of the images:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/761/track-info">https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/761/track-info</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/763/track-info">https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/763/track-info</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/766/track-info">https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/766/track-info</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/779/track-info">https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/779/track-info</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetcam.org/details/1359722/744/track-info">https://openstreetcam.org/details/1359722/744/track-info</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetcam.org/details/1343611/1763/track-info">https://openstreetcam.org/details/1343611/1763/track-info</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
David Wales<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/6/19 10:24 am, Ewen Hill wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Good morning
Mateusz ,
<div> A lot of the tertiary roads in Australia are under local
government authority ownership Mateusz. So we have a single
Federal Government and then the states and territories and
finally under that local government. In Victoria, there are 77
local government authorities (mainly shires and councils).</div>
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<div> A lot of these rural shires have little money and so a
lot of older signs may be still found, especially on creek
crossings on dirt roads that are pre standardisation. Also,
the state governments looks after a lot of the forest reserves
through their "conservation" department or similar. These
signs on logging roads may also differ, mainly due to the
vastness of the network.</div>
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The axle signs I haven't seen but as a cyclist I don't look too
closely at these. I do know that there is a Victorian database
of road and bridge limits however I don't know where copyright
sits but would have a decent guess that it is not available to
OSM.
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<div>Thanks for all your work. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 09:49,
Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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24/06/19 05:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:<br>
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<div>How weight limit signs in Australia looks like?
Especially on bridges?<br>
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<div>I found <a
href="https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/regulatory"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/regulatory</a><br>
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<div>with "Bridge load limit signs" that have two
examples:<br>
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<div><a
href="https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0020/42824/r6-3.png"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0020/42824/r6-3.png</a><br>
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<div><a
href="https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/42700/r6-17.png"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/42700/r6-17.png</a><br>
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<div>is the same set of signs used in 5 other states?<br>
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Similar<br>
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href="https://nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/378221/hvdh-section5.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/378221/hvdh-section5.pdf</a><br>
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<div>is "per axle group" commonly used or is it an
extremely rare curiosity?<br>
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Most don't drive trucks so they pay no attention to them. <br>
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There are maximum weights and dimensions that vehicle have
to comply with. Major roads have bridges that withstand
those maximums so they have no signs for that. It is only on
lesser roads where a bridge cannot carry that maximum load
that you should find these signs. I would think short
bridges may well carry axle limits. <br>
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<div>is this sign using short ton or long ton or normal
tonnes (=1000 kg) as an unit? <br>
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We are a metric country now. So 1tonne = 1000kg.<br>
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<div>According to sources that I also encountered design
like US signs, like<br>
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<div><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_R12-1.svg"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_R12-1.svg</a><br>
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<div>is at least sometimes used in Australia.<br>
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<div>Is it correct? (my sources were quite dubious so...)<br>
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Unfortunately the road signs are under Australian Standard,
AS 1743:2018. Australian Standards are copyright ... most
will say that is ridiculous! <br>
But there we are. So finding examples of signs can be
difficult. I can go and look at the AS, but I cannot copy it
(I did have the capability at work, but had to declare it -
special licence) ... I can photo signs beside the road ...
There are some examples in learn to drive booklets, but I
have not found any with the truck weight limits as yet. <br>
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Some older signs may still be found but they will be replace
with AS 1743:2018 signs. <br>
See
<a class="gmail-m_2803698876545897279moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/BuildingRoads/StandardsTechnical/RoadandTrafficEngineering/TrafficManagement/AustralianStandardSigns/Pages/home.aspx"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/BuildingRoads/StandardsTechnical/RoadandTrafficEngineering/TrafficManagement/AustralianStandardSigns/Pages/home.aspx</a>
for some old examples. <br>
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