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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/07/19 23:06, Sebastian S. wrote:<br>
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      Hi Aleksandar,<br>
      <br>
      Just in case you have not reviewed it, there Is a wiki page
      Australian tagging guideline <a
        href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines"
        moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines</a><br>
      <br>
      However Regarding your question 1 mayor road classification has
      always been a no-go for me.<br>
      E.g. A8 Pittwater Road, North of Sydney, NSW.<br>
      <br>
      It is an 'A' road according to Wikipedia these As are "primary
      highways, including urban arterials and interstate or
      interregional single carriageways."<br>
      <br>
      Now for the most part the A8 has two or more lanes that are
      separated, however the road is also lined with intersections with
      red lights, driveways and houses. It is an important and high
      capacity road.<br>
      <br>
      While the first points to me indicate it should be highway=trunk
      the last points make me think it should be highway=primary.<br>
      <br>
      As I often find myself in similar dilemmas I tend to not change
      the classification.<br>
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    For some guidance in NSW the LPI Base Map can be of help. <br>
    As an example I use it for tertiary versus unclassified as these
    tend not to have physical differences but the importance to the
    local community is the thing that changes them. <br>
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      cite="mid:BBF03B12-59DA-4DDD-B485-DFABF379F2C2@consebt.de"><br>
      Aside from providing some examples of your cases I ask you what is
      your driver to look at the road classification and see the need to
      revise it?<br>
      <br>
      What are the benefits of a road changing between trunk and
      primary? What does it do for map users and data consumers?<br>
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    I would think that routers will pay some attention to the road
    classification, assuming the higher one would be preferred for a
    faster trip (less side entrances, stop etc). <br>
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      The way I understand your email you refer to major review of the
      classification and not a fix if a single local point.<br>
      <br>
      Or do you consider the classification of (some) roads that wrong
      that you can't live with it?<br>
      <br>
      Curious, Sebastian<br>
      -- <br>
      Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
      brevity.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On 23 July 2019 12:50:19 am AEST,
        "Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"><talk-au@openstreetmap.org></a> wrote:
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            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">My name is Aleksandar
              Matejevic, I work for Microsoft OSM Editorial team. In
              order to make the best decision in classifying roads
              across Australia, I need some help.<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">In government data and on
              signposts you can find on mapillary and/or open street
              cam, you can track route numbers. I found out that routes
              mostly consist of:<span
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                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">M route – motorways<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">A route – trunks<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">B route – primary roads<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">C route - secondary roads <span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif">
                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">As long you map in non-urban
              area this is 99.99% true, but when you map into city area
              it starts to get confusing.
              <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">On this wiki page <u><a
                  href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways_in_Australia"
                  target="_blank"
                  title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/highways_in_australia"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#6888C9">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways_in_Australia</span></a></u>
              there is no real explanation how to classify AUS roads in
              OSM <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif">
                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">If you strictly follow this
              page: <u><a
                  href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway"
                  target="_blank"
                  title="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/key:highway"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#6888C9">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway</span></a></u>
              than you should change road classification several times
              on the same route way. <span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif">
                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">Therefore I have a couple of
              questions:<br>
              <br>
              1. Do you change the classification of highway on the
              motorway route into trunk through the city because it does
              not have a physical barrier in between (not restricted
              access) or do you keep it as motorway because of
              consistency?<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">2. If we were to change the
              road classification several times during one route way,
              should we ignore segments that are less than 3km (for
              example motorway going through minor city in which it has
              a quality of trunk)?
              <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">3. Can motorway have some
              traffic signals when passing through city?<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p style="margin-bottom:8.25pt">4. How to classify State
              routes (for example in Melbourne)?<span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p>Best regards, <span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif">
                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p>Aleksandar<span
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                UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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