<div dir="ltr">I don't think OSMF will change this requirement, as the reasons for the waiver are detailed in the blog post Mateusz linked to, <a href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a> are pretty compelling.<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There had been some hope that CC BY 4.0 sources would be directly compatible with the ODbL. But while neither CC nor the OSMF has undertaken a complete compatibility analysis, we have identified at least one point of incompatibility and one possible challenge regarding attribution that lead us to our decision to continue to ask for explicit permission to use BY 4.0-licensed material in the OSM project. This is the best path forward. </blockquote><div><br></div><div> If you would like a second voice for your enquiry with Gold Coast, feel free to loop me in. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 07:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 21:02, Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 18:05, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>See <a href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/" target="_blank">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>CC BY 4.0 requires waiver<br></div><div><br></div><div>The additional text is confirmation that it is<br></div><div> actually released under this licence<br></div><div>and that personal confirmation is not required.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Exactly.</div><div><br></div><div>I reached out to Greg Payne, Director of Land and Spatial Information, Topographic Data, Imagery and Mapping, DNRM in December 2018 (in case anything had changed since my prior correspondence), the reply was:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> The Department’s position has not changed since your previous enquiry.<br> <br>Consistent with Queensland Government policy, our data is provided under a CC:BY 4.0 Licence. The department will not provide the data under an ODbl licence. It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is sufficient for use of our data and we do not accept that OpenStreetMap cannot use our data under the CC:BY licence.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>So unfortunately we're in a stalemate, OSMF says we need a waiver, DNRME says they don't believe we need one. So we can't currently use DNRME's CC BY 4.0 open data within OpenStreetMap unless either OSMF or DNRME change their stance.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not taking a stab at DNRME over this, they are free to no agree to the waiver, it's their call.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks both of you.</div><div><br></div><div>Exactly the same position with my on-going discussions with Gold Coast City Council - they've given us explicit permission to use their data, but can't get their head around our need for a waiver as well? </div><div> </div><div>"
unless ... OSMF ... change their stance" - any chance / likelihood of that happening?</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-4019101357163936931gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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