<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:23 AM Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Near Newcastle there is “END MOTORWAY” sign (<a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-32.827333333333335&lng=151.63297222222224&z=17&focus=photo&pKey=QwLK6dsVE3rIYlRi71FkkQ&x=0.4803505694838756&y=0.4734649939668362&zoom=0.04809894640403123" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-32.827333333333335&lng=151.63297222222224&z=17&focus=photo&pKey=QwLK6dsVE3rIYlRi71FkkQ&x=0.4803505694838756&y=0.4734649939668362&zoom=0.04809894640403123</a>)</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In Australia the Start/End Freeway/Motorway signs are more for legal restrictions than a description of the quality of the road.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_3406979660597085491WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Besides, there are still some junctions where you can access both sides of highway at a time.
<br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In Australia having at-grade intersections doesn't stop a road being a motorway (in the OSM sense). If you read the Wiki entry for Australian tagging it uses the Hume Freeway as the example of what a motorway is, and this road has quite a number of at-grade intersections.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_3406979660597085491WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">
I wanted to ask for some more opinions before changing this section of Pacific Highway to trunk.<br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Which section? Ballina to Newcastle?</div><div> </div><div> In general it's a bit vague as to what an Australian "motorway" is. In a rural area dual carriageway and a 110 km/h speed limit is most likely to be a candidate. It gets a bit tricky on the Pacfic Hwy because some dual carriageway sections have a 100 km/h speed limit. Do we downgrade these to trunk or accept that they are of the same standard as the rest of the road and call them motorway?</div></div></div>