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<p>Hi, just thought I would mention if you get the waiver that you
could use <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync</a> to manage in
the conflation. I am one of the developers and plan on doing a lot
of work on it over the summer. If you need help, send me an email.</p>
<p>Thanks<br>
Reuben<br>
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<div>Thank you both for the helpful info! <br>
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<div>I'll get onto sending the waiver letter to PTV. Once it
comes back I'll make sure to update the wiki and report back.<br>
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<div>I've summarised the number of stops and routes in the
dataset for anyone who is interested.</div>
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<pre id="gmail-ptt-wrapper"> Transport Medium ??? No. stops No. routes
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Metropolitan Train ??? 222 99
Metropolitan Tram ??? 1673 73
Metropolitan Bus ??? 18241 354
Regional Train ??? 110 206
Regional Bus ??? 6644 356
Regional Coach ??? 859 658
Night Bus ??? 452 22
TeleBus ??? 100 8
Interstate ??? 11 11
SkyBus ??? 5 2
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<pre id="gmail-ptt-wrapper">For completeness, here's the summary from OSM using the tags railway=station, railway=tram_stop and highway=bus_stop inside the area ISO3166-2=AU-VIC.
Transport Medium ??? No. stops No. routes
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Train ??? 442 38
Tram ??? 1570 91
Bus ??? 4793 716
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 6:15
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at
23:29, Aaron Fang Shenhao <<a
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<div dir="auto">Hi everyone,</div>
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<div dir="auto">This is my first time using the mailing
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<div>Welcome!</div>
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<div dir="auto">I???ve noticed that PTV???s (Public
Transport Victoria) datasets (<a
href="https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/data-and-reporting/datasets/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/data-and-reporting/datasets/</a>)
all fall under Creative Commons International 4.0,
which requires explicit permission to be used
according to OSM???s blog. I???ve looked at the wiki and
can???t find any of these specific datasets in the list
approved for use.</div>
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<div>Graeme pointed to the catalogue on the wiki of waiver
status. I missed PTV when doing the initial round, so
feel free to add this to the wiki??<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue</a>.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Has anyone asked for permission to use
these datasets before? I downloaded the GTFS dataset
for a programming project, and it seems amazing: we
could add all the stops and connect all the routes for
all modes of transport in VIC just from this dataset?<br>
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<div>I haven't approached PTV about this, and since it's
not listed on the wiki, I'd say go ahead and put
together the waiver letter and send it off. The metadata
records have a contact email you can use. If you do send
off a waiver request please update the status and date
you sent it to the wiki??<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue</a>,
this really helps the rest of the community see what's
going on.<br>
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There'd still be a fair bit of manual work involved in
an import to avoid duplicates and to integrate with
what's already in OSM, but with a solid plan and
engaging with this mailing list and local mappers with
the plan and execution, an import could be a good thing
to do.</div>
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12:33, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a
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<div>I see there is reference??to??<a
href="https://www2.delwp.vic.gov.au/maps/spatial-data/victorian-spatial-data#Vicmap_Transport-11"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www2.delwp.vic.gov.au/maps/spatial-data/victorian-spatial-data#Vicmap_Transport-11</a>??being
OK but that doesn't appear to be the same thing?</div>
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<div>Unfortunately not, VicMap Transport only has
airports, roads and railway lines. The PTV data has bus
stops and a few other datasets.</div>
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