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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/10/19 09:53, Andrew Harvey wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks for consulting the list for feedback before making
the change, such a big change like this should be discussed
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 05:40, Joachim <<a
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proposals I added the English and Pitjantjatjara<br>
explicitly because Uluru has some translated names.<br>
My preferred proposal for both features:<br>
name = Uluṟu<br>
name:en = Uluru<br>
name:pjt = Uluṟu<br>
alt_name = Ayers Rock<br>
alt_name:en = Ayers Rock<br>
official_name = Uluru / Ayers Rock<br>
official_name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock<br>
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<div>I'm also okay with either alt_name or old_name for "Ayers
Rock", with a slight preference to "old_name".</div>
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Some would argue that the true old name is Uluru. :)<br>
I think alt_name is probably the better choice. <br>
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Uluru seems to be generally seen as the preferred name
nowadays in<br>
Australia. I played a bit with Google Trends to see the
extent<br>
(<a
href="https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru</a>)<br>
The official name is the dual name Uluru / Ayers Rock<br>
(<a
href="http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532</a>)<br>
The park is co-operated by Anangu and the Australian
Government and<br>
names it Uluru exclusively<br>
(<a
href="https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/</a>)<br>
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<div>I agree.</div>
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Older ozies are more used to Ayers Rock... I still use it as I don't
remember how to spell Uluru always and that is what I am used to. <br>
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<div>So, with such a mish-mash of underlined &
non- names, my own preference would be:</div>
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<div>name = Uluru / Ayers Rock<br>
name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock<br>
name:pjt = Uluṟu<br>
old_name = Ayers Rock<br>
old_name:en = Ayers Rock </div>
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<div>if we need to specify name:en, if not, simply</div>
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<div>name = Uluru / Ayers Rock<br>
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<div>name:pjt = Uluṟu<br>
old_name = Ayers Rock <br>
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<div>I'd prefer Joachim's proposal, I relegating Ayers
Rock to as part of the official_name and either the
old_name or alt_name. I believe most of the signage
within the park uses the exclusive term "Uluru".</div>
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