<div dir="ltr">PS the nation wide emergency facilities database is released at <a href="https://www.emsina.org/emergencyfacilitiesdatabase">https://www.emsina.org/emergencyfacilitiesdatabase</a>. It is CC BY Geoscience Australia and GA have agreed to the waiver. So licensing wise it's available for use.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 07:35, Sebastian S. <<a href="mailto:mapping@consebt.de">mapping@consebt.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Graeme,<br>I tried to fix some of the skipped ones, however only in one case I could find a reference website from RFS or RFB. I however was able to add two fire stations that where missing, the base map is your friend here.<br>Adding 220 stations via searching the base map is however not a sensible way of doing it.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 January 2020 12:29:29 pm AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">& done! (apart from ~17 that are too hard, mainly because I can't see if there actually is a Station in that spot / area)<div><br></div><div>However, there were "only" 718 listed. Earlier, Warin mentioned 944 stations in the database, & I've spotted 3 that I know of that weren't listed (or previously mapped).</div><div><br></div><div>How do we find the extra 220 odd?</div><div> <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 11:10, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Agreed as to non fire stations -
control center is one, the other headquarters. <br>
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<div>Headquarters would be an 'office' type
function.</div>
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<div>Control center looks, from imagery, to
not only control but supply? <br>
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<div>There is a fire & rescue station in
'town' that is mapped into OSM. <br>
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<div>There are a number of rural fire
stations around Narrabri .. some of them unmapped. <br>
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<div>These show up very well on the LPI Base
Map even when zoomed out a fair way. <br>
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<div>On 9/1/20 8:12 am, Andrew Harvey wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 22:40,
Sebastian Spiess <<a href="mailto:mapping@consebt.de" target="_blank">mapping@consebt.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I've done a few. Two
raised questions.<br>
<br>
Narrabri - There are two fire ' services' according to LPI
map. How to <br>
tag them?<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336523" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336523</a></blockquote>
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<div>Looks like there is a Fire Control Center there, I'd just
tag that building as office=government + operator + name,
since they have more of an office function.</div>
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<br>
and RAYMOND TERRACE Fire Station - This seems to be and old
fire station <br>
as according to <a href="https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/news.php?news=608" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/news.php?news=608</a><br>
a new one was built. I can't tell if the old one was closed
down.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336870" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336870</a></blockquote>
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<div>If you're not sure and street level imagery doesn't help,
just mark it as too hard and skip it. You can create a note
so that someone with local knowledge can help. </div>
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<br>
Am 2020-01-08 21:24, schrieb Andrew Harvey:<br>
> If someone has carefully surveyed the name as
signposted I leave that<br>
> intact. branch is not mandatory but helpful since
consumers can choose<br>
> how they want to format the such as "Narooma", "Narooma
RFS", "Narooma<br>
> Rural Fire Brigade", etc. especially when combined with
operator. The<br>
> whole point was to be neutral on the exact name format
and not engage<br>
> in a mass edit to reformat them to be the same, but
instead respect<br>
> names will look different based on signage.<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> I have used the LPI Base Map for both name and
operator, see<br>
>> <br>
>> Way: Narooma Fire Station (761122699) [operator
fire & rescue]<br>
>> <br>
>> and<br>
>> <br>
>> Way: Narooma Rural Fire Service (761122698)<br>
>> <br>
>> I do not bother with the 'branch' as that is
usually the leading<br>
>> value in the name and probably the same as the
areas administration<br>
>> name too.<br>
>> <br>
>> The LPI Base Map also gives the area so it can be
mapped as a way.<br>
>> <br>
>> On 08/01/20 16:13, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> No, just confirming details was all I was thinking
about!<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> <br>
>> Graeme<br>
>> <br>
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Andrew Harvey<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> It's normally considered okay to check a business
website as a<br>
>> reference and picking up their contact details, but
to err on the<br>
>> side of caution taking a whole database from <a href="http://fire.nsw.gov.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">fire.nsw.gov.au</a>
[1] and<br>
>> mass importing is not advised.<br>
>> <br>
>> So I'd suggest not just copying everything from
that website. For<br>
>> the RFS operated fire stations normally the name
will indicate this,<br>
>> or a quick look at google search results may also
indicate,<br>
>> sometimes it's visible on Mapillary based on the
signage.<br>
>> <br>
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 15:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Just a thought?<br>
>> <br>
>> Are we allowed to use <a href="https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=467" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=467</a><br>
>> or not?<br>
>> <br>
>> I've thinking we would still need permission &
waiver?<br>
>> <br>
>> Big question, I guess, is - are we commercial or
not?<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> <br>
>> Graeme<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Links:<br>
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> [1] <a href="http://fire.nsw.gov.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://fire.nsw.gov.au</a><br>
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