<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/4/20 7:57 pm, Daniel Pocock
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1e68036d-3d23-6788-06ac-eede0196603c@pocock.pro">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
On 21/04/2020 09:53, Greg Lauer wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi Daniel,
As both a (very amateur) military historian who has visited many of
battlefields/CWG's through the Asia Pacific, Africa and Europe, as well
as an Open Data proponent, I really like what you are trying to do. But...
The terms and conditions of OSM in relation to data imports is fairly
clear - unless the data is already licensed under an Open Data Commons
Open Database License (ODbL) then you will need (preferably written)
permission from the copyright holder.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_License_approval">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_License_approval</a>
A cursory glance at each of the providers websites does not indicate
that they have licensed under ODbL. Yes, this is pain, but it is the
only way OSM can ensure that the data can be legally used. Feel free to
send them an email asking if they will give permission to make there
data available in OSM. I can send you a template letter that
explains the licensing conditions to the copyright holder. The CWGC data
set would be great as a global dataset!
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
I've sent the emails but even if they don't respond before the weekend,
I still feel that people can do useful activities with the data, even if
it is not an import to OSM just yet</pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre>I think all that can be done now is to look at the data, check if it is missing from OSM.</pre>
<pre>If missing .. go there and map it, or use what imagery OSM has available and map what you can from that.
</pre>
<pre>You cannot copy data from the Anzacathon pages nor any linked pages,
at least not any that are not compatible with OSM requirements.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1e68036d-3d23-6788-06ac-eede0196603c@pocock.pro">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
The OSM site has a compatibility table, the UK Open Government License
(OGL v3.0) is listed as an alternative to the ODbL
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/">http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/</a>
Therefore, I asked CWGC to consider both of those possibilities.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The use of OSM within a web service (such as the CWGC) has no
relationship to whether we can incorporate and/or import the said data
sets into OSM. Again unless explicit permission is given it will need to
be requested.
Do you actually need to integrate the data sets into OSM? You seem
fairly talented at data wrangling and my suggestion would be build your
web services using OSM as a base map, and make the ancillary data
available as a separate overlay. This way you will not potentially
breach the terms and conditions of the OSM licence (but still please
check with the data providers that you can use that data in this way).
There are multiple other ways that you can display the data sets with
out actually integrating into OSM.
I look forward to seeing the completed product!
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
Please note I'm not personally volunteering to do everything described
on the Anzacathon page. My own aim is to provide a data pipeline /
platform for people to be creative.
If anybody has time to promote the Anzacathon link or video through
their own communities or online channels that would help, even if you
don't have time to participate.
If you know of similar initiatives for Anzac Day, I'm also happy to
include them on the links page.
Another issue for me is to decide on a single communications platform
for participants. Some hackathons are using Slack, for example, but I
don't want to encourage things that are not really open. Are there any
more open platforms that are popular with the mapping community or other
like-minded people?
Regards,
Daniel
_______________________________________________
Talk-au mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org">Talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
</body>
</html>