<div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you everyone for the clarification, I have to admit I mixed up "paved" with "paving_stones" and didn't realise that StreetComplete will ask people to survey the former and pick a more specific surface type.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 at 22:32, <<a href="mailto:talk-au-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-au-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
From: Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Talk Au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Many Sydney residential roads have incorrect<br>
surface of paved<br>
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Yes exactly as Mateusz said, asphalt is a subtype of paved, if the surface<br>
is asphalt and there is no surface tag yet, then it's correct to map it as<br>
surface=paved (if you know it's paved but can't tell specifically which<br>
type of paved surface it is), then someone else can come along and improve<br>
it to surface=asphalt/concrete etc. It would be wrong to change<br>
surface=asphalt back to surface=paved unless it was surveyed and there is a<br>
question about exactly which type of paved surface it is.<br>
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The StreetComplete surveyor app will ask you to survey surface=paved into a<br>
more specific surface type.<br>
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You should absolutely not go ahead and do a mass/automated revert without<br>
discussion though, for exactly the same reasons why a large mass/automated<br>
edit should be discussed initially too (much more can go wrong on a larger<br>
scale if you make a mistake, and maybe it was discussed but you're just not<br>
aware of where the discussion was. So if you have concerns then please<br>
raise them here.<br>
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You're probably talking about the Microsoft Open Maps team edits which<br>
added a bulk of the surface=paved tags (though certainly not all), I<br>
understand these edits were made manually but with using AI as an indicator<br>
to flag potential surface tag additions.<br>
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Lastly you can't use Google Street View as a source for mapping as<br>
explained why at<br>
<a href="https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps</a><br>
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