<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes exactly as Mateusz said, asphalt is a subtype of paved, if the surface is asphalt and there is no surface tag yet, then it's correct to map it as surface=paved (if you know it's paved but can't tell specifically which type of paved surface it is), then someone else can come along and improve it to surface=asphalt/concrete etc. It would be wrong to change surface=asphalt back to surface=paved unless it was surveyed and there is a question about exactly which type of paved surface it is.</div><div><br></div><div>The StreetComplete surveyor app will ask you to survey surface=paved into a more specific surface type.</div><div><br></div><div>You should absolutely not go ahead and do a mass/automated revert without discussion though, for exactly the same reasons why a large mass/automated edit should be discussed initially too (much more can go wrong on a larger scale if you make a mistake, and maybe it was discussed but you're just not aware of where the discussion was. So if you have concerns then please raise them here.</div><div><br></div><div>You're probably talking about the Microsoft Open Maps team edits which added a bulk of the surface=paved tags (though certainly not all), I understand these edits were made manually but with using AI as an indicator to flag potential surface tag additions.</div><div><br></div><div>Lastly you can't use Google Street View as a source for mapping as explained why at <a href="https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps">https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps</a> </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 04:42, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>1) surface=paved is correct for asphalt, surface=asphalt is even better<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>2) if it was added by an undiscussed mass/automatic edit, it can be reverted by<br></div><div>anyone, for any reason, without discussion<br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct</a><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jan 6, 2021, 17:34 by <a href="mailto:mattattlee@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattattlee@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div>I've been reviewing the maps in Sydney and have noticed that quite a few roads have a surface of paved yet are actually asphalt when compared against Google Street View<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173141179" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173141179</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173140980" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173140980</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23323163" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23323163</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>From what I can tell this change set used AI to set the road surface but made some mistakes in the process <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58383256" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58383256</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Should we bulk remove the value of paved that was set by AI so people know to survey the surface of these roads?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </div>
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