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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For HMAS Watson.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">There is a clear fence at the south
eastern site of the 'public path' near the cliff edge, that goes
across the path and extends from the cliff edge for some distance,
possibly to the manned car entry. It is clearly there to stop
public access. It has no rsemblce to a gate at that point despite
what is should on OSM. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have deleted the tags of
barrier=fence and "note"="was outer for Sydnye Harbour National
Park before LPI Admin Boundary data used."<br>
and "source:geometry"="NSW LPI Imagery" on way 95481474 as the
way has been edited by a few since those tags were place on it -
placing the fence across the access road .. where there is clearly
NO FENCE. It remains as the 'boundary' for HMAS Waston.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">While there is a fence line at the top
of at least some of the cliff, the same is true along most of the
public parks in that area.. probably to stop people fall over the
edge. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I doubt very much that HMAS Watson
allows general public access. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/2/21 10:16 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:<br>
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<div>& most of it, you can actually see the Base perimeter
fence / wall in imagery at the top of the cliffs<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 21:34,
Michael James <<a href="mailto:michael@techdrive.com.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">michael@techdrive.com.au</a>Graeme
Fitzpatrick <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com"><graemefitz1@gmail.com></a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There
is a public trail around the top of the cliffs the base is
certainly not up to the edge<br>
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Michael<br>
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<p>The 'public trail' is to the south of the present HMAS Watson. <br>
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<p>Take a look near -33.8372424, 151.2819289, no sign of a path
near the cliff .. just a road further west. <br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2021 5:25 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Help with relation please<br>
> <br>
> On 29/1/21 5:53 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:<br>
> > Have been starting working through various military
establishments to<br>
> > update their details according to the military=base
proposal, &<br>
> > looking at HMAS Watson on South Head, Sydney:<br>
> > <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2250229#map=16/-"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2250229#map=16/-</a><br>
> 33.8377/151.281<br>
> > 4<br>
> ><br>
> > The eastern edge of the Base has been drawn to match
the coastline,<br>
> > along the outer line of the rocks at the bottom of
the cliff, but I<br>
> > really think that it should be at the top of the
cliff.<br>
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> Why do you think it should be on the top of the cliff?<br>
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> This is a naval establishment. They could view the sea
shore as a potential<br>
> security risk and want control of it. They could also use
the cliff for training -<br>
> repelling off it.<br>
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