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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We might be reinventing the wheel or at least part of it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement</a> is an approved feature that covers point to point speed cameras. I can see it in use in Melbourne for single
point speed/red light cameras. Probably better to use something global than invent something Australia specific<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alex<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Warin <61sundowner@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 7:53 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>talk-au@openstreetmap.org <talk-au@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [talk-au] highway=safe_t_cam in Australian Tagging Guidelines<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 13/2/21 4:31 pm, Brendan Barnes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G'day Mateusz, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There's at least 24 Safe-T-Cam locations in NSW. If they are on dual carriageways, then double for nodes on both the directions. <a href="https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safe-t-cam-network-map.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/safe-t-cam-network-map.pdf</a>
(confirm licencing before map use).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I believe that these now also do speed camera duties too. They would have to kate a photo of the rear of the vehicle due to motorcycles only having a rear plate.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure how many operate in SA.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In Victoria a similar network rolled out 4 years ago, but it appears to be operated by NHVR nationally rather than VicRoads at the state level. <a href="https://www.roadsonline.com.au/new-cameras-to-monitor-heavy-vehicles/" target="_blank">https://www.roadsonline.com.au/new-cameras-to-monitor-heavy-vehicles/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps a new "Safe-T-Cam" proposal should be for say:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">highway:hgv=fatigue_management_camera<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">or<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">enforcement:hgv=fatigue_management_camera<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">..Brendan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, 13 Feb 2021, 03:25 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au, <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Regional_Roads" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Regional_Roads</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">has following text:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"highway=safe_t_cam Use this tag to mark the position of the NSW and SA Safe - T - Cam system"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This tag is used exactly 2 times: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=highway&value=safe_t_cam" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=highway&value=safe_t_cam</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is seems possible that this recommendation should be amended/removed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- or more of this features should be mapped<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(spotted during unrelated wiki editing)<o:p></o:p></p>
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