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I think a much better option is to leave the railway=abandoned as is
is and draw a new way using most but not all the same nodes for the
new superimposed infrastructure. That way map makers who want to
show old railway infrastructure can show the railway and choose to
ignore the cycleway and vice versa. It avoids confusing
cross-tagging and allows deviation between the two infrastructures.<br>
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Here is a classic example on the Bass Coast Rail Trail that
frequently occurs, (best seen in an editor). The cycleway exactly
runs along the old railway track to the west but due to an unsafe
bridge and the need to cross the Bass Highway, deviates to the south
east. However, the old railway is still clearly part of the
landscape as an overgrown embankment and the unnavigable bridge is
still there and a point of historical interest.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-38.54656&mlon=145.47110#map=19/-38.54656/145.47110">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-38.54656&mlon=145.47110#map=19/-38.54656/145.47110</a><br>
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Mike<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-02-14 04:57, Jonathon Rossi
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 12:27 PM Josh Marshall
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My proposal is to alter
the ways associated with the track to highway=track (it’s
all wide enough for vehicles), but retain railway=abandoned,
and add all the missing ways to the above relation. <br>
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My main reasoning behind this is to raise it’s visibility as
a walk and ride option, and allow routing along it, as
current routers (Strava, Komoot) ignore it altogether (much
to my annoyance). It’s what’s been done for locally, the
Fernleigh Track (<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2269030"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2269030</a>),
and elsewhere eg The Great Victorian Rail Trail (<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1043265"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1043265</a>)<br>
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Now the other question is what should be done with the
proposal as far as adding tags. This way is on the old rail
line and part of the proposal, <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/243988974"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/243988974</a>
has railway=abandoned, highway=proposed and
proposed=cycleway. It’s all accessible now, so it should be
highway=track (surface=unpaved), but then how to tag for the
proposal?<br>
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<div>I agree, it should have highway=track now if someone
could drive on it. That video on the council website looks
like some significant work is going into this project.</div>
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<div>I'd drop the current "name=Richmond Vale Railway" tag
(only if the tracks have been removed), leave old_name, and
add "proposed:name=Richmond Vale Rail Trail". If the railway
tracks remain (as they do in some sections of imagery at
some unknown date) and the rail trail is a different
alignment, you might need to map them separately.</div>
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