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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/5/21 9:54 am, Stéphane Guillou
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<p>Thanks Warin and Graeme. I had also sent a private message, and
no response either.</p>
<p>I went ahead and did my first revert with the JOSM plugin,
which is some fun mental gymnastics... Only 7 conflicts,
thankfully. Revert changeset is this one: <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/104711700"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/104711700</a></p>
<p>So out of the 7 changesets, 2 have been reverted:</p>
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<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103072911">Geraldton
landuse</a><br>
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<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103073501">Land
usage</a></li>
<li><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074145">Fixes
around Corsico</a></li>
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I took a look at this one, made some changes and asked a local to
look at it. So I think you can skip it. <br>
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<li><a class="changeset_id text-dark"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074175"
moz-do-not-send="true">المحطة البخارية للكهرباء </a></li>
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<li>reverted by <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074175">Warin61</a><br>
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Yer .. this one... umm the original mapping is not good either. But
better to leave it for someone to clean up that knows it. The sand
scrip says something like "steam powered electricity" - tagging for
the render. <br>
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<li><a class="changeset_id text-dark"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074912"
moz-do-not-send="true"> agro industrial plants; house
numbers merged</a></li>
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<li>reverted by <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/104711700">stragu</a><br>
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<li><a class="changeset_id text-dark"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103076310"
moz-do-not-send="true">Venezuela cleanup and additions </a></li>
<li><a class="changeset_id text-dark"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103076460"
moz-do-not-send="true">try to fix this area </a></li>
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<p>I don't have time to review (and revert if need be) the other
ones this weekend, unfortunately, but might have a look next
week.<br>
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It is not all that urgent, most of the changesets are a small amount
of data. The main concern is the combining of features into one OSM
item. <br>
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<p>Cheers<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well no response 9 days later.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Wait another ~5 days, to make it a
fortnight .... if nothing then revert all of them?</div>
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<div>I agree with the concerns you raised in the changeset
comment, and that the changesets are well-meaning, so
let's see if and how they respond first. There are only a
handful of changesets all from 18 days ago at this point.</div>
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11:12, Stéphane Guillou <<a
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<p>Hi all</p>
<p>I am <i>respectfully </i>writing to hear what you
think about this changeset from a seemingly new
contributor. I definitely don't want to publicly
shame someone's well-meaning contribution, but after
commenting on the changeset, I want to:</p>
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<li>Inform others that the area they contribute to
might have been affected too</li>
<li>Know what other contributors think about the
nature of the changes, given that I have very
little experience with fixing / reverting changes
that affect such large areas.</li>
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<p>You will notice from the <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Australets/history"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">changeset
history of the contibutor</a> that all their
changesets were submitted on one single day, the day
they created their OSM account, and that they affect
very distant areas around the world (which makes me
think there isn't much local knowledge involved).<br>
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<p>The changeset that affects the area I am familiar
with is changeset <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074912"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">103074912</a>.
But if you live around Geraldton (WA), you might
also be interested in this one: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103072911"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">103072911</a>.<br>
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<p>Here is the message I wrote after I noticed the
changes in my area, so you have a better idea of my
concerns, but given the size of the changeset, I
haven't been able to give it a thorough review.<br>
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<p>---</p>
<p>Hi Australets! I was wondering about the motivation
between this changeset, as it changed quite a few
things in the area where I contribute. <br>
What is the idea behind merging addresses, buildings
and points of interest? I know there are different
opinions on the matter, but I can see definite
drawbacks in the merging you did, at least in some
cases. For example, some of the resulting buildings
end up having a "source" tag that used to refer to
only the address, but now seems to refer to the
whole object. <br>
See for example this one: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/401769723/history"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/401769723/history</a>
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In other cases, the main building is apartments but
now has the name of one single shop included in it:
<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/444096785/history"
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/444096785/history</a>
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In many cases, one single key could have a different
values for a building and a point of interest, even
though the general rule "One feature, one OSM
element" applies. (e.g. address, name, contact,
source...). Separate POIs are also helpful for shops
to more precisely show in the building where it is
located. <br>
Let me know what you think!</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>Any input would be appreciated, especially tips
about the way forward!</p>
<p>Cheers<br>
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