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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/9/21 6:29 pm, Karl Cheng wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 23:16, <<a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Well, that pretty much
                    matches what I said before:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Anything that remotely looks
                    like a footpath (is meant for people to walk on) is,
                    in the absence of one of the 4 (3 + one mirrored)
                    official signs I linked, a footpath.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>It is not in any way limited
                    to things that would be tagged as “sidewalk” in OSM.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>e.g. take this example from
                    my local neighbourhood: <a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In the absence of any signs
                    saying otherwise (spoiler, there aren’t in this
                    case) all of these are “footpaths” as defined by
                    law.</span></p>
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          <div>From what I understand, this whole "Road Rules"
            regulation only applies to "roads" and "road related areas".</div>
          <div>Only footpaths adjacent to a "road", or any path
            explicitly designated for cyclists are considered to be
            "road related areas".<br>
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          <div>See rules 11-13 of the Road Rules for details.</div>
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    <p>The old NSW road rules said <br>
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    <p>"Any place open to, or used by, the public" .. <br>
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    <p>So council and supermarket carparks were covered, as were some
      group of people (the public) using private property - with or
      without permission... <br>
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    <p>I have no idea what the present ones say .. but I'd imagine
      something similar will be there. And I think other jurisdictions
      will have similar claims. <br>
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