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On 3/10/21 9:13 am, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote:<br>
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<span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">In my view, some of the data in OSM
is incorrect as a footpath will some times have permission
bicycle=yes which is incorrect. The majority of the time allowed
access will have bicycle=unspecified (not defined)which I think
is fine.</span><br style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The issue is that cycling software,
apps and gps units used by cyclist takes information from OSM
and then creates a route based on the permission assigned to the
road/path in OSM.</span><br style="-webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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In Victoria cycling is not allowed on most footpaths (for most
adults). The is defined in the wiki at <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia</a><br>
and more formally in OSM at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316741">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316741</a><br>
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As far as I'm concerned, routing software should be using these as
part of the decision on when to route bikes down footpaths. Any
software which ignores these should be have a bug report logged. We
should not tag all footpaths with bicycle=no just for software which
doesn't understand the defaults already configured in OSM.<br>
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It looks like Thosten Engler[*] has just said the same thing.<br>
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[*] Is that the name of the person using
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au">osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>? You don't appear to have used a
name in your email so I'm guessing based on your email domain, but
as domains often get used by multiple people there is no guarantee
that I'm right.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Kim<br>
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