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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/10/21 8:53 pm, Kim Oldfield via
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Hi Adam,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/10/21 10:23 am, Adam Horan
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Kim,
<div>highway = pedestrian is for pedestrianised roads/areas
rather then footpaths/sidewalks/pavements for those I
think the current tag is highway=footway.</div>
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I only included highway=pedestrian as it is part of
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which I'm trying to get a consensus on. What you you think the
default access tags should be for highway=pedestrian in Australia?<br>
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<div>bridleway isn't in use in Australia much for the path
types we're discussing here.</div>
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Also included only because it is part of the default access wiki
page.<br>
Given it doesn't get used much in Australia is it worth deviating
from the worldwide defaults?<br>
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<div>I'd prefer a normal footpath to be</div>
<div>highway=footway - and no additional bicycle= or foot=
tag, unless there's a sign specifically barring cycling in
which case bicycle=no</div>
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Agreed.<br>
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<div>Shared paths (the most common ones after a walking only
path)</div>
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<div>highway=footway + bicycle=yes (I prefer this one)</div>
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According to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootway"
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"The tag <span
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"
class="mw-content-ltr"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap">highway</bdi>=<a
class="mw-selflink selflink" moz-do-not-send="true"><bdi>footway</bdi></a></span>
is used for mapping minor pathways which are used mainly or
exclusively by pedestrians" so highway=footway is not appropriate
for many bike paths which are mainly used by bikes, and less so by
pedestrians.
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<div>or<br>
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<div>highway=cycleway and a foot=yes tag to make it clear (I
don't prefer this one, but it's a mild preference)<br>
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In Victoria there are not many bike only paths, so it makes more
sense to use this for paths for combined bike and foot traffic.
This is also how it is commonly used on OSM in Victoria (and the
rest of Australia?).<br>
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As mentioned by by Sebestian, using highway=cycleway is also much
easier to visually distinguish. As using highway=cycleway an
equally valid way to tag, I'd consider this to be practical
tagging, and not tagging for the renderer. According to <a
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it is actually<big><i> </i></big>"Don't deliberately enter data
incorrectly for the renderer".<br>
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If we set the default in Australia for highway=cycleway to be
foot=yes then we don't need to repeat foot=yes on each way.<br>
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<div>This is mostly with a VIC perspective.</div>
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Likewise.<br>
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<p>I would suggest then you set the defaults for Victoria rather
than Australia?<br>
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<p>South Australia, Western Australia, Queensland, Northern
Territory and Tasmania allow bicycles on footpaths unless there is
a sign against it.</p>
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