<div dir="ltr">Isn't it always the case though that patrolled beaches will have flags and that is the area patrolled? My point is then what's the difference between `lifeguard=yes` and `lifeguard=yes @ flagged_area / red_and_yellow_flags`, to me they mean the same thing.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 18:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>That's it!</div><div><br></div><div>Today the flags are here, tomorrow they may be 100m South, then the next day they're 100m North of here, but the flags will always show where the lifeguards are at any time.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 16:11, Adam Horan <<a href="mailto:ahoran@gmail.com" target="_blank">ahoran@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think I see.<div><br></div><div>The lifeguards are where the flags are.</div><div>The flags are somewhere on this beach.</div><div>There'll be flags/lifeguards at certain times.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 17:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Agree entirely but I'm not trying to map the flags, I was trying to work out a way of saying that the lifeguards are where the flags are?</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:49, Adam Horan <<a href="mailto:ahoran@gmail.com" target="_blank">ahoran@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Flag position will vary daily based on weather conditions, tides, rips, proximity to the toilets, other stuff?<div><br></div><div>I think you'd just need to mark the whole beach.<br><div><br></div><div>Adam</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks everybody!</div><div><br></div><div>In response to a couple of points ...</div><div><br></div><div>No, I'm not trying to mark that the lifeguards are "in this spot", I just thought that some way of indicating where on the beach (i.e the flags) they would be would be good.</div><div><br></div><div>& yes, we're all taught to swim between the flags, but is that standard teaching everywhere?</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:26, Simon Slater <<a href="mailto:pyevet@iinet.net.au" target="_blank">pyevet@iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wednesday, 20 October 2021 9:54:22 AM AEDT Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:<br>
> A little while back, I put the emergency=lifeguard proposal through,<br>
> together with lifeguard=yes to describe those times when there is a<br>
> lifeguard/s on the beach, but they may not be in a fixed location.<br>
> <br>
<snip> <br>
> Or do we just not worry about it, & work on the idea that =yes is<br>
> sufficient?<br>
> <br>
When I were a lad, we were taught to always look for the flags when going to <br>
any beach to swim, teaching personal responsibility and obey the flags because <br>
the lifesavers know that beach better. Therefore, actual flag positions need <br>
to be known as variable.<br>
<br>
However, tagging a beach that does have a SLSC is good because those <br>
unfamiliar with the area, tourists say, or families with young children, can <br>
then preferentially choose such beaches. Similarly, the more adventurous, or <br>
those desiring solitude, can preferentially choose alternate locations.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Regards<br>
Simon Slater<br>
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