<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Dian, </div><div> I know the area well and this is my <a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=912845149571145&focus=photo&lat=-37.893471866062&lng=145.31094951001&z=17&x=NaN&y=NaN&zoom=0">Mapillary </a>showing access to the shops in the service road. Rose Street is very narrow and appears to have had a bit of a makeover at that intersection during clockdown. I don't think there are any signs stating you can't go all the way north to the railway station carpark or east bound on Burwood Hwy but very few would and would be slower and more dangerous than using the traffic lights just to the west. I believe a straight bi-directional route Rose street to the carpark entrance would do the trick and take the service area out the back to be humanely put down as Thorsten suggests.</div><div><br></div><div><br>Ewen</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 17:22, <<a href="mailto:osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au">osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_1806308015805280109WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Looking on mapillary, it seems you can also enter there, so the current mapping is wrong.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Also, I can’t see any legal reason, besides it being dangerous if there is traffic, to cross all the way from the parking lot at the top to that Burnwood Highway Service Road at the bottom, or the other way around.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>I’m not going to actually touch it, as it’s way outside my usual mapping area, but personally I would map it like this:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558999688670609448/901351143542784050/unknown.png" target="_blank">https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558999688670609448/901351143542784050/unknown.png</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thorsten<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:23<br><b>To:</b> Dian Ågesson <<a href="mailto:me@diacritic.xyz" target="_blank">me@diacritic.xyz</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> OSM-Au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road access<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 13:54, Dian Ågesson <<a href="mailto:me@diacritic.xyz" target="_blank">me@diacritic.xyz</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">On the most recent edit, a highway=service area has been introduced for a roadway between a main road, a frontage road and a side street<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/995553123" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/995553123</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I have not seen this before, and it doesn’t strike me as correct. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">No, I would agree that it is not correct, & there's no real need for it to be there.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">From looking at what's already mapped, it would appear to be OK, with one possible exception?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Can traffic from the Hwy enter the service road at the Rose St intersection, or is it one-way outwards only?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If it's two-way, then Rose St should be broken, & the section between the service road & the Hwy made two-way. At the same time, you could also move it to the middle of the intersection, but that's only my OCD neatness coming out! :-)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Graeme<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Warm Regards<br><br>Ewen Hill<br><br></div></div>