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Hi Dian,<br>
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I have an interested in mapping what I call, for want of better
terminology, fuzzy names or sense-of-place and comment in that
specific regard.<br>
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In summary: if the suburb has a defined boundary, use an area, if it
doesn't use a node. I would certainly NOT however use both to
represent the same suburb. From experience with Russian cities, that
makes if very difficult to make maps without pre-processing OSM data
to remove duplicates. For things like airports and islands where
this often happens accidentality due to the evolution of the map or
simple misunderstanding, I can and do remove the node and merge any
extra info onto the area.<br>
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I would comment that from my understanding, Australian suburbs are
somewhat unusual in often having defined admin/postal boundaries. A
more common situation is a "sense of place" that can really only be
mapped with a node. As an example, my UK home town has an area
mapped as a suburb called the Weston Estate. In the 1930s(!) it was
a defined new housing development. Everyone know where it is, north
of the river and to the west of the road out of the valley. But does
it include later development? Does it include the older houses and a
couple of farms? Hard to say and who you talk to gets a slightly
different answer. So dangerous to map an area because then the map
is making the landscape. Perhaps this is the case with Gruyere? (I
genuinely don't know).<br>
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If anyone has an interest in sense-of-place mapping, I've
experimented with is_in:* tags to map physiological regions, often
historic but still relevant or loosely geographic. The idea being to
end up with a point cloud that can then be processed according to
need. I find that if you ask someone who lives there, "Are in X?",
they can give a straight and usually consistent yes/no answer. But
if you ask "And where does it end?", you'll get either a very vague
answer or a look of panic. But I am wandering off topic, so will
leave it there.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-11-05 04:15, Dian Ågesson
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<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>I would appreciate the thoughts of the community with regards
to suburb representations.</p>
<p>In a recent change set (<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/113355648"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/113355648</a>)
a node was introduced for Gruyere. Gruyere is on the urban
boundary, but is technically in Metropolitan Melbourne. As such,
it straddles the border between what could be considered a bona
fide suburb, and an independent town.</p>
<p>Mick has correctly pointed out that many of the other
localities in the area are represented by both an area and a
node.</p>
<p>Is this the way all suburbs should be represented? Or is it an
urban/rural distinction?</p>
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<p>Dian</p>
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