<div dir="ltr">You can "use any tag you like" <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like</a><div><br></div><div>To put forward another suggestion, you could consider using operator:type:admin_level=4 for state, =6 for LGA and =2 for commonwealth.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Table_1:_Countries_using_admin_level_3.E2.80.9310">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Table_1:_Countries_using_admin_level_3.E2.80.9310</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The admin_level tag I feel does a better job at coding the administrative hierarchy globally, and ensures we don't need to consider the distinction between a state/territory, or a shire/council. Plus it's already documented and in use.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 12:38, Andrew Hughes <<a href="mailto:ahhughes@gmail.com">ahhughes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> Thanks yet AGAIN Andrew,<div><br></div><div>I believe ...</div><div><br></div><div><b>operator:type:government=state</b><br></div><div><br></div><div>...best suits.</div><div><br></div><div>I can see us using wikidata for other similar situations. Thank you for also pointing that out.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again,</div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 07:00, Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>My opinion is it's better to keep the values high level as listed at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd opt to instead use operator:wikidata=* to specify which government or government agency is the operator and use wikidata to record other details.</div><div><br></div><div>eg. operator:wikidata=Q1735793 (Main Roads Western Australia), <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1735793" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1735793</a> which is recorded as part of</div>Government of Western Australia, which in turn is recorded as instance of state government.<div><br></div><div>operator:wikidata can similarly be used for Local Governments, Airports, Ports, Forestry Corporations, private mine site operators, private retail companies eg <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18378048" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18378048</a><br><div><br></div><div>If you preferred to store this directly in OSM, then something like your second option operator:type:government=state could work.<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 03:20, Andrew Hughes <<a href="mailto:ahhughes@gmail.com" target="_blank">ahhughes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks everyone, I just learnt a whole lot.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">operator:type = private </div><div dir="auto">operator:type = government</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is a nice fit (thanks again Andrew).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Now, to probably extend the question a little bit (sorry). What if I tried to add more specific info about the type, for example....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">operator:type=<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">government:state</div><div dir="auto">government:lga<br></div><div dir="auto">government:airport</div><div dir="auto">government:port</div><div dir="auto">government:forestry</div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">private:mine</div><div dir="auto">private:retail</div><div dir="auto">private:industrial</div><div dir="auto">....</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or coule a new key (suffix?) such as ":subtype" get used...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">operator:type:subtype=</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">state<br></div><div dir="auto">lga</div><div dir="auto">airport</div><div dir="auto">...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for all the answers so far!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 9:36 pm Warin, <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey
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<div dir="ltr">We have a tag for this <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type</a></div>
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<p>Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been
developed and sub divided by a 'developer' - once finished the
houses are sold off and the roads, water pipes, sewage pipes,
electricity supply etc etc and 'given' by the 'developer' to the
respective bodies - thus the maintenance is no longer the
'developers'. The council may also require parklands, a local
library as part of the development. If the community is gated then
they may have to maintain things, do rubbish collection and
disposal ... <br>
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Andrew Hughes <<a href="mailto:ahhughes@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ahhughes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All,
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<div>I was wondering how I could tag ways that would
indicate that they are belonging to "non-government" -
aka these are private assets and do not belong to the
public sector.</div>
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<div>Some examples would be ways within:</div>
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<li>housing estates</li>
<li>gated communities</li>
<li>within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility</li>
</ul>
<div>Note: this is not related to access=private that is
different.</div>
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<div>One example:</div>
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<li><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244</a></li>
<li><a href="https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg</a><br>
</li>
<li><a href="https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/</a></li>
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<div>Thank you,</div>
<div>Andrew</div>
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