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Hi,<br>
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The markers were installed by the railway, and are maintained by the
railway. They are pole numbers attached to each telegraph pole along
the railway. To help emergency services locate points along the
railway Puffing Billy provided their location to ESTA with the "PBM"
prefix.<br>
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As the railway created and maintains them I assume they are allowed
to give permission for others to use them.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Kim<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/21 4:56 pm, Adam Horan wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Are these emergency markers created and maintained
by the Puffing Billy Railway?
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<div>If not they might be sharing a dataset with you that they
don't have permission to share for this purpose?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 16:24,
<<a href="mailto:osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Maybe just create a simple page
on the wiki describing what you intent to do along
with a link to information about the received
permission? Just to make it easier to find in the
future if there are any concerns.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Andrew Harvey <<a
href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 26 November 2021 13:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Kim Oldfield <<a
href="mailto:osm@oldfield.wattle.id.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">osm@oldfield.wattle.id.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> OSM-Au <<a
href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Importing 200
emergency markers?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That sounds fine to me, this email
consulting with the community, informing of your plan
and what steps you've taken is enough in my opinion.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would ask if you could share
more information about the permission you obtained?
So long as you have sufficient rights to submit the
data under the OSM contributor terms.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 04:56, Kim
Oldfield via Talk-au <<a
href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
I have a list of 200 emergency marker locations
along 22km of the <br>
Puffing Billy Railway which were provided to me by
the railway with <br>
permission to include them in OSM.<br>
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I've been reading through <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import</a>
- <br>
most of which appears to be geared toward larger
imports and using <br>
publicly available data with various licenses. The
data for my import is <br>
not publicly available, and was provided to me when
I asked to import it <br>
into OSM.<br>
<br>
I've searched overpass-turbo and there are no <br>
highway=emergency_access_points, name~"PBM", or
ref~"PBM" near the list <br>
of nodes I have to import. This indicates that none
of the nodes are <br>
already mapped.<br>
<br>
Based on the example file on <br>
<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_file_format"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_file_format</a>
I've converted the <br>
emergency marker list into xml, the start of which
looks like:<br>
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<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><br>
<osm version="0.6"><br>
<node id="-3" lat="-37.907468"
lon="145.36039"><br>
<tag k="ref" v="PBM003"/><br>
<tag k="highway"
v="emergency_access_point"/><br>
</node><br>
...<br>
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In JOSM I can import this file and merge the layer.
I'm intending to <br>
then upload this with appropriate an comment noting
that the data was <br>
provided by Puffing Billy Railway with permission to
include it in OSM.<br>
<br>
I'm proposing to import this as a one off, single
change set under my <br>
existing OSM username.<br>
<br>
Is this a reasonable way to do this import? Is there
anything else I <br>
should do?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Kim<br>
<br>
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