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    <p>Just to clarify, the OSMF doesn't just requires the waiver
      because it is being difficult.</p>
    <p>CC BY has fundamental issues that are widely ignored, the blog
      post is simply the diplomatic summary that we hammered out
      together with CC (it says so much in the text).</p>
    <p>Simon<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.12.2021 um 07:54 schrieb Brendan
      Barnes:<br>
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        <div>Hey John,</div>
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        <div>The Legal Eagles of the OSMF Licence Working Group continue
          to ask for explicit permission (ie waiver) for CC BY 4.0. The
          rationale is at <a
            href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a></div>
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        <div>You can reach them via their contact details at <a
            href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group</a>
          for any clarifications, but it appears they have already
          assessed the wording in CC BY 4.0.<br>
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        <div>I know waivers can be difficult to obtain, and government
          entities may have internal red tape or few resources available
          to supply one to the OSM community. However it's in everyone's
          best interest, and once we have a waiver on file for the
          agencies' datasets, they are good to use indefinitely.<br>
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        <div>..Brendan</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:53,
          John Luan <<a href="mailto:john.luan.x@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">john.luan.x@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div>Hi Guys,</div>
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            <div>Had a look at this license</div>
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              href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en</a><br>
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            <div>Do we really need a waiver from the data provider? 
              something like this <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/17/AADC_CC-BY_Permission_JK_signed.pdf"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/17/AADC_CC-BY_Permission_JK_signed.pdf</a></div>
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            <div>My feeling is that as long as we list the data provider
              on the contributor list, it should be fine.</div>
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            <div>Regards,</div>
            <div>John</div>
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