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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/1/22 5:00 pm, Phil Wyatt wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Definitely worth a follow
especially if you have an interest in informal
tracks/paths/pads and maybe even historical routes that
don’t appear on the ground. I certainly don’t agree with all
their statements (especially …. </span><i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Source Sans
Pro",sans-serif;color:#333333">Good coverage of all
trails (including closed or illegal ones) is essential for
some mapping applications, such as firefighting and SAR.</span></i><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">) but its also
interesting that its now coming up as a major issue for US
National Parks and reserves managers. In Tasmania its been
known as an issue since the early 1990’s<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think lots of their
issues will require close cooperation with the map renderers
to be in any way effective.</span></p>
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<p>Historic paths - particularly ones that are 'disappearing' should
be in OHM - Open Historic Map.</p>
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<p>OSMand already has the capability of showing access=private - at
least on paths. This is my preferred render - updates monthly and
I can alter the rendering (eg 'forest' for me is a different
colour from 'wood' because I changed it!) <br>
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<p>I think tack visibility and SAC scale are more indicative of
dangers to the less experienced or less cautious, though the
latter may pay little attention to warnings. <br>
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<p>The key informal I have not come across before, I doubt I'd use
it as in some places there would be little difference between
paths made 'deliberately' and one made 'by many people using the
route'. In any case it does not indicate the level of difficulty
nor the legal access. <br>
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<p>As for mapping, I am for mapping all things that can be seen as
an aid to navigation. If it cannot be seen from a public, customer
or permissive place then I don't really care to map it. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers
- Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Graeme Fitzpatrick
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 3 January 2022 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSM-Au <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org"><talk-au@openstreetmap.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [talk-au] US Trails Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy New Year!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just noticed mention of this in the
weekly Newsletter:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looks like something that we should be
following with interest?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Graeme<o:p></o:p></p>
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