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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I agree it should have been discussed and documented – I have advised the Data Working Group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au <osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 January 2022 6:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'OSM-Au' <talk-au@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed, undocumented mass edit across all of Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Phil,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>iD is a major part of the problem here, by very hard pushing an agenda which doesn’t have consensus for it. But that, and even the complete contents of this edit, is beside the point.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The central issue is that this is an Australia wide automated edit of 1000s of nodes that didn’t follow the Automated Edit Code of Conduct. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The planned edit should have been documented, and any discussion about the merits of it should have taken place before the edit is performed, if it achieves consensus that it is a desirable edit.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On the merits of this edit, the result is now that every place where the platform has previously been mapped separately as an area now has ended up with doubled up platform tags on both the area and the bus_stop node. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thorsten<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> Phil Wyatt <<a href="mailto:phil@wyatt-family.com">phil@wyatt-family.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 January 2022 17:26<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au">osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>; 'OSM-Au' <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [talk-au] Undiscussed, undocumented mass edit across all of Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Thorsten,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am pretty sure every bus stop in Tasmania has public_transport=platform but they are predominately nodes (as we have total rubbish public transport system here!). I am also not sure if it matters that there is a shelter or seat, it still gets the platform tag. I think its also a validation in the ID editor as well (cant be 100% sure)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The transport enthusiasts will be able to give more information<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers - Phil<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> <a href="mailto:osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au">osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au</a> <<a href="mailto:osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au">osm.talk-au@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 January 2022 5:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'OSM-Au' <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [talk-au] Undiscussed, undocumented mass edit across all of Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116091398">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116091398</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>To quote my changeset comment:<br><br>This undiscussed, undocumented mass edit that didn't follow the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct</a> is introducing a huge amount of incorrect data to the database and should be reverted.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>public_transport=platform doesn't automatically go onto every highway=bus_stop, only in cases where that's the only thing that's mapped. <o:p></o:p></p><p>If there is an actual waiting area of any kind, the public_transport=platform belongs on that instead.<o:p></o:p></p><p>see <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport#Buses">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport#Buses</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931071450926964786/unknown.png">https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931071450926964786/unknown.png</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931072496403370014/unknown.png">https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931072496403370014/unknown.png</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931073576893825064/unknown.png">https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931073576893825064/unknown.png</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Opinions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thorsten<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>