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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>OK – It would be good to clarify that as the vast majority of the ‘bushwalking’ track network in Tasmania is path but I am also seeing strange footway out the middle of nowhere (ie Eastern Arthurs, Hartz Mountains). I did suspect that footway is being used more where there is infrastructure but that will also be an issue as something like the Overland Track or the Southcoast will get split from path to footway everywhere there is some infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I might even start compiling some images of track infrastructure so it can be nailed down before I start a QA across the network.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will also do a scan across other bushwalking areas around the country.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers - Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 27 January 2022 9:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> talk OSM Australian List <Talk-au@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [talk-au] Deletion of walking tracks/paths<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 17:56, Phil Wyatt <<a href="mailto:phil@wyatt-family.com">phil@wyatt-family.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt'><span style='color:black'>Just a quick thing I noticed – the main tagging page says not to use </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122'>do not use </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#202122;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" target="_blank" title="Key:highway"><span style='color:#0645AD'>highway</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootway" target="_blank" title="Tag:highway=footway"><span style='color:#0645AD'>footway</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122'> and the preference is </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#202122;background:#EEEEFF'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" target="_blank" title="Key:highway"><span style='color:#0645AD'>highway</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath" target="_blank" title="Tag:highway=path"><span style='color:#0645AD'>path</span></a>, b</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122'>ut the walking track page mentions that tag regularly – what is the differentiation?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That part may be controversial, but I've documented it based on my view which is highway=footway is for paths built for/intended for use mostly by people on foot and highway=path is a generic path with no clear intended mode, but not wide enough for cars.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So a hiking track is specifically for walking so highway=footway with this view.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>An alternative view is that highway=footway is for urban paths, and remote bushwalking tracks should be highway=path, but I think that view is outdated now.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 21:32, <<a href="mailto:forster@ozonline.com.au">forster@ozonline.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi<br><br>I assumed that<br>highway=footway is a path mainly for pedestrians that may or may not <br>allow bicycles<br><br>highway=cycleway is a path mainly for cyclists that may or may not <br>allow pedestrians<br><br>and highway=path is not saying anything about allowed transport modes<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For me it's not really about the allowed transport modes, that still remains best tagged explicitly with foot=*, bicycle=*, etc. but which is the main mode it was built for/designed for/actively in use for.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At the end of the day, it's probably all for nothing, do data consumers really distinguish highway=footway from highway=path?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>