<div dir="ltr"><div>Continuing on with that line of thought & looking at the example mentioned in the other thread:</div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/-31.99548/115.99338">https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/-31.99548/115.99338</a></div><div><br></div><div>How should that left turn from Tonkin Hwy to Hale Rd be mapped?</div><div><br></div><div>As a relatively smooth curve the way it is now, or as an abrupt 45<span class="gmail-ILfuVd gmail-NA6bn"><span class="gmail-hgKElc">° angle at the physical traffic island eg ___/_|__ ?</span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-ILfuVd gmail-NA6bn"><span class="gmail-hgKElc"><br></span></span>
</div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Mar 2022 at 08:58, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Looking back at the notes from the previous discussion & spotted this comment:
<pre>"only split the way at the point where you can no longer physically change lanes."</pre>
<div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Physically, or legally?</div><div><br></div><div>Looking at the <span style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px"></span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779286918/history" rel="noopener" style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px" target="_blank">Princes Hwy/William Rd</a> example, yes, there's only a painted line & island that you can physically cross, but that would mean doing an illegal lane change.</div><div><br></div><div>Are we supposed to worry about that, or not?<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 19:57, Luke Stewart <<a href="mailto:suburbansilvervlogs@gmail.com" target="_blank">suburbansilvervlogs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">(forgot to x-post to talk-au)<br><br>Hi,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The standard rule and the way that I map is to only begin a new way if there is some form a physical separation, so extra turning ways which can be completed with a box but are modelled as curves aren't following this rule (same goes for ways that start when lanes start rather than branching off where the physical separation begins).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Whilst there are arguments like "it looks better" or "helps with routing/direction finding/navigation", these are not reasons to break osm, rather to improve software.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>In the case of the<span style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px"> </span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/779286918/history" rel="noopener" style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px" target="_blank">Princes Hwy/William Rd</a> intersection, the residential road should be drawn straight through the intersection, with the right turn lane specified with keys such as turn:lanes and change:lanes.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As for how to resolve with this user, probably affirming a regional consensus would be most convincing.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto">Luke</div></div>
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