<div dir="ltr"><div>Message sent to Blue Mountains Council asking for them to please clarify what the legal use of these tracks is?</div><div><br></div><div>I'll update when I hear something back from them.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 18:15, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Illegally constructed ... who says?<br>
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Never mind.<br>
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The land owner/controller would be the one to contact.<br>
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Ask about access in general terms - everyone, private, permissive..<br>
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The method of transportation over the track is a separate issue ...<br>
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There maybe access considerations for them too .. but again not about <br>
the physical properties .. but the permissions.<br>
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On 10/3/22 18:40, <a href="mailto:forster@ozonline.com.au" target="_blank">forster@ozonline.com.au</a> wrote:<br>
> Hi Graeme<br>
><br>
> "Illegally constructed trail bike tracks", so<br>
> possibly just tagging it as motor_vehicles=private, foot & bikes=yes, <br>
> would<br>
> solve it?<br>
><br>
> No, I don't think so.<br>
> Its a trail bike track so its probably too narrow for cars, <br>
> motor_vehicles=private seems irrelevant<br>
> foot & bikes=yes, It sounds like the landowner didn't want the track <br>
> constructed and most likely doesn't want any traffic at all. access=no <br>
> is probably the most accurate.<br>
><br>
> Strava, glowing dull red cuts out the lifecycle prefixes.<br>
><br>
> I would probably tag it access=no and close it with a comment that <br>
> removing it from the map is not a simple process and that the creator, <br>
> Cormacticii probably should ask on talk-au<br>
><br>
> Tony<br>
><br>
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>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 17:34, <<a href="mailto:forster@ozonline.com.au" target="_blank">forster@ozonline.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2788602#map=15/-33.7227/150.6317" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2788602#map=15/-33.7227/150.6317</a><br>
>>> Contact the land manager, if the land manager can make a serious job<br>
>>> of closing the track to traffic then it might be OK to use a lifecycle<br>
>>> prefix, there are a few to choose from.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks - now who to ask?<br>
>><br>
>> The Note's OP says that it's "Deerubbin LALC land", which I'm <br>
>> thinking is<br>
>> Local Aboriginal Land Council?, while we show that it comes under Blue<br>
>> Mountains City Council. Which of the two would have the say? Or is it <br>
>> State<br>
>> Govt?<br>
>><br>
>> Also thought to have a look on Strava, which shows this looped track as<br>
>> glowing dull red, so a reasonable number of people are certainly <br>
>> using it!<br>
>><br>
>> Complaint was that it was "Illegally constructed trail bike tracks", so<br>
>> possibly just tagging it as motor_vehicles=private, foot & bikes=yes, <br>
>> would<br>
>> solve it?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Graeme<br>
>><br>
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