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<p>There are lots of different types of easements. <br>
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<p>Other than buried gas pipe lines there are;</p>
<p>buried optical fiber lines</p>
<p>over head power lines, and access tracks to them</p>
<p>public roads through property (farms, State Forests, National
Parks etc) <br>
</p>
<p>private access through one or more properties to another private
property <br>
</p>
<p>old stock routes (the long paddock) .. these can be see on the
DCS base map - e.g. Sturt National Park</p>
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<p>And probably more... <br>
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<p>The old stock routes cannot be 'seen on the ground'. Yet someone
could insist on using it.. they would need permission from IIRC
the stock board who usually imposes restrictions - start dates,
minimum speed - where stops are made and for how long .. etc. <br>
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<p>Mapping what you see is fairly safe. Mapping an easement ... ?
how wide is it? There would be lots of questions about it .. I'd
stay away unless you have a formal source that can easily be
checked. <br>
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<p>Thanks for raising the issue, Graeme.</p>
<p>I opened the issue but I have limited understanding of what an
easement is in different jurisdiction.</p>
<p>Ben makes a good point in that an easement can be considered as
an absence of something else, so might not need to be mapped,
more specifically a space in between plots that can be built.
Maybe why there is so little of it mapped on OSM?</p>
<p>Where the note points, I believe the reason it exists is access
to the small bit of bushland and the creek, for emergency
services for example. In that case, should it be tagged as a
track rather than a footway? And what access tag should be used?</p>
<p>Cheers<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If there is no formed track (but vehicles do use
it) then I would think that highway=track or path,
surface=grass, visibility=no, low, etc. and access=private,
otherwise landcover=grass would be fine in my opinion.
<div>OSM is not a town planning serves it, it does not contain
zoning codes or laws so why should it contain easements? </div>
<div>Further to this, easements are a lack of ground structure
(due to an underground, overground, or planned
utility/road), therefore not having anything mapped on top
of them would not cause a problem (and the eagle eyed may
think there is an easement there)</div>
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<div>Ben</div>
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<div>A note had been raised concerning mapping a Council
access easement:</div>
<div><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2883145#map=19/-27.50901/153.03017"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2883145#map=19/-27.50901/153.03017</a></div>
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<div>Suggestion was made that these should be
leisure=nature_reserve as it is not to be developed on?
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<div>I suggested that they're just highway=footway +
surface=grass, possibly with access=private if so
signposted e.g:</div>
<div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/538670878"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/538670878</a></div>
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<div>Alternative suggestion was landuse=easement?</div>
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<div>Have just done some searching &, strangely, there
are basically no easements in OSM!</div>
<div><a
href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=easement"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=easement</a></div>
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<div>The 13 "easements" are all in Australia for gas
pipelines:</div>
<div><a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gXr"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gXr</a>,
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<div>while the 28 "easement_filed" are all in Florida for
power lines:</div>
<div><a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gXs"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gXs</a></div>
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<div>The only other mentions of easements are in the wiki
for US Public Lands:</div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Public_lands"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Public_lands</a>,
together with a brief mention in Massachusetts: <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Massachusetts/Conservation"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Massachusetts/Conservation</a></div>
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<div>So, how would we like to map these areas?</div>
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<div>3 alternatives would seem to be nature_reserve /
landuse or highway?</div>
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<div>Any other suggestions / thoughts?<br>
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<div>What do we all think?</div>
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<div>Graeme</div>
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