<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p>Traditionally the 'homestead' is the main residential building
and is usually named the same or similar to the farm. I have been
mapping in NSW the building as building=farm and name=x from the
DCS Base Map for location and name with DCS Imagery for the
footprint. When you zoom in on the Base Map the name will be
associated with one building by proximity and the building will be
a filled in black square, other non residential buildings tend to
be hollow black squares. <br>
</p>
<p>The homestead might get 'homestead' appended to the name, and the
farm might have appended 'Station' or 'Down'. I think this depends
on how old you are and your local knowledge. My first visit many
years ago to Mount Wood in the north west of NSW is a case in
point .. I was told 'Mount Wood Station' for the farm and 'Mount
Wood Homestead' for the residence... IIRC 'Station' is for cattle
and 'Down' is for sheep... <br>
</p>
<p>Outback farms tend to have the mail box on the main road and that
can be quite some distance from the homestead. <br>
</p>
<p> <br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/4/22 15:27, Bob Cameron wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:282124c3-f076-33c5-52dd-f69800d328d7@skymesh.com.au">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<p>Remote areas and larger farms generally have been troubling me
too Graeme. I make no distinction about numbers of people, just
a landuse=farm node. (so I copied a very prolific mapper!)
Recently I noted that landuse:farm has been deprecated and to
use landuse:farmland, but that complains about being a node.
There is no easy way to define a farm boundary. I think in terms
of the mailbox, driveway and largest concentration of activity
being the node centre.<br>
</p>
<p>And the name is the farm name, not the house name.. maybe! <br>
</p>
<p>Remote cattle stations can support an extended family (in more
than one homestead) and other many onsite (staff) people. Are
the working farm staff include in any people sizing
calculations? ouch!<br>
</p>
<p>Personally I don't think it a good idea to tag a farm that
creates commercial income with any notion of the number of
people. It gets a bit blurry when it is an unusual group like a
religious order or non profit retreat, but they already have
other tags.</p>
<p>Cheers Bob<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/4/22 14:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP4zaXrLvW7R70SQZHwytB=sxy+xsg+Rxzsq29qPoAWLkXhbKg@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Also bringing discussion out here from Discord.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>An anonymous user is hitting Notes with quite a few
entries yesterday to say that remote homesteads are
incorrectly tagged as hamlets eg <a
class="gmail-anchor-1MIwyf
gmail-anchorUnderlineOnHover-2qPutX moz-txt-link-freetext"
title="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380"
rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank" role="button"
tabindex="0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380</a>,
but looking at this particular place <a
class="gmail-anchor-1MIwyf
gmail-anchorUnderlineOnHover-2qPutX moz-txt-link-freetext"
title="https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882"
rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank" role="button"
tabindex="0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882</a>,
I'd say that "hamlet" was probably correct in that there
could well be a couple of families living there? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Other suggestions that have been made are
place=isolated_dwelling or place=farm.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Bit of a grey area, I guess? Isolated-dwelling says 1-2
families only, hamlet says 100-200 people, while place=farm
says "a family of farmers". Guess it really depends on the
particular property involved, which would require detailed
local knowledge? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thoughts? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Graeme</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
Talk-au mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
Talk-au mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org">Talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>