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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That picture is about an intersection not a T-intersection lmao</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:me@diacritic.xyz">Dian Ågesson</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">Anthony Panozzo</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:suburbansilvervlogs@gmail.com">Luke Stewart</a>; <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">
talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi Anthony,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Below is a picture from the South Australian Road Rules. It shows the correct procedure for a u-turn there would be exactly from that point of view and back, including a small section of a "one-way"
road.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a href="https://imgur.com/a/Wn6jx8h">https://imgur.com/a/Wn6jx8h</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As the others earlier have mentioned, I would encourage you to take a moment to take a step back and consider these points, as this type of rapid fire back-and-forth is not particularly efficient.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Would you also be able to provide some details about how the routing is being tested? It would really help identify down-stream data consumers that may be interpreting OSM data differently than
expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Dian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p id="reply-intro"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">On 2022-05-03 10:28, Anthony Panozzo wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">No it is not because the road in front of the POV car in a one way road which is not allowed, it would even need you to drive for a little bit going the wrong way lmao.
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Sent: </span></strong>Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:52 AM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">To: </span></strong><a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">Anthony Panozzo</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Cc: </span></strong><a href="mailto:me@diacritic.xyz">Dian Ågesson</a>;
<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Subject: </span></strong>Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It is also acceptable from the point of view of the camera as stated in the Road Rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 10:18, Anthony Panozzo <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Yes at the median is fine, but not from where the point of view of that picture is. TheSwavu has allowed u-turns starting from exactly the point of view of that picture and
back<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Sent: </span></strong>Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:28 AM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">To: </span></strong><a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">Anthony Panozzo</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Cc: </span></strong><a href="mailto:me@diacritic.xyz">Dian Ågesson</a>;
<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Subject: </span></strong>Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The intersection shown in mapillary without traffic lights <a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=764585334231385&lat=-34.72009104&lng=138.66975917&z=17&focus=photo" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=764585334231385&lat=-34.72009104&lng=138.66975917&z=17&focus=photo</a>
would be one where performing a u-turn is allowed. As you go along the mapillary trace, you can even see two different vehicles making u-turns in median breaks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 09:52, Anthony Panozzo <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">You are wrong, you can not do u-turns at t-intersections on a one way road<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">From:
</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:me@diacritic.xyz">Dian Ågesson</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Sent: </span></strong>Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:39 AM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">To: </span></strong><a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">Anthony Panozzo</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Cc: </span></strong><a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Subject: </span></strong>Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Anthony,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">This user is telling me I don't even know the road rules LMAO, and just to be clear again... you are arguing this guy is free to click all the buttons without question and you are happy to defend
every single one of his edits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Speaking personally, I am not defending every single one of his edits, as I have not reviewed them all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">However, every edit that you've referred to in this mail chain as being "wrong" hasn't had any issues. We've covered:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">- Deleting a restriction which does not contain a from/to way (valid)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">- remodelling intersections to remove crosses (valid)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">- adding a u turn using a way as a "via" member (valid)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">And you have now raised a different type of problem,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">- Removing a u turn restriction at an intersection with no traffic lights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">On the latter point, I quote <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/__legislation/lz/c/r/australian%20road%20rules/current/2014.205.auth.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/__legislation/lz/c/r/australian%20road%20rules/current/2014.205.auth.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection without traffic lights
<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">if there is a no U-turn sign at the intersection</span></strong>"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Note 2—<br>
U-turns are permitted at intersections without traffic lights unless there is a no U-turn sign, even though traffic lane arrows indicate that the driver must or may turn right—see rule 92.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">this is now the fourth type of error which isn't actually wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">If there is a valid issue, then obviously it should be fixed. But I am unable to identify a problem in the edits you've raised.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Please, take a deep breath and consider some of the points raised before responding with another flurry of emails.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">dian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 2022-05-02 22:49, Anthony Panozzo wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="v1gmail-m4165470794576920773gmail-m357252061137582823v1msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">This user is telling me I don't even know the road rules LMAO, and just to be clear again... you are arguing this guy
is free to click all the buttons without question and you are happy to defend every single one of his edits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Sent: </span></strong>Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:16 AM<br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Subject: </span></strong>Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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You said this ?I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The<br>
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a<br>
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or<br>
traffic lights:? which is 100% incorrect, you can only do a u-turn if there is a sign permitting you to do so. You don?t have the understanding to be able to blindly click buttons from this state,ent alone, and yet people will come to your defence lmao<br>
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Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:33:00 +1000<br>
From: Andrew Davidson <<a href="mailto:theswavu@gmail.com">theswavu@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
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On 3/5/22 08:18, Anthony Panozzo wrote:<br>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me<br>
> it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections<br>
<br>
Gmail will send an email to both the mail list and the original sender<br>
by default on reply. You will have noticed the list email address in the<br>
CC:. Or maybe you didn't notice?<br>
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By the way, the link you sent me off-list:<br>
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<a href="https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/" target="_blank">https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/</a><br>
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says exactly the same thing I was trying to explain to you. Perhaps this<br>
video might make it clearer:<br>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SzfStP1nE" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SzfStP1nE</a><br>
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Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:38:42 +0000<br>
From: Anthony Panozzo <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: [talk-au] TheSwavu<br>
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By directly emailing me he trying to mess up the way au-talk is formatting, no one here gets to see what he is emailing me, he has no clue about the laws/rules or the areas, this is a joke<br>
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Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100<br>
From: Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
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On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:<br>
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> How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't<br>
> used Discource enough to picture how it works.<br>
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If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed<br>
all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do<br>
is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to<br>
e.g. <a href="https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7" target="_blank">
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Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000<br>
From: Andrew Davidson <<a href="mailto:theswavu@gmail.com">theswavu@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Anthony Panozzo <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>><br>
Cc: OpenStreetMap <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au<br>
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)<br>
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On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691<br>
> | OpenStreetMap <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history</a>><br>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service<br>
> road.<br>
><br>
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I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The<br>
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a<br>
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or<br>
traffic lights:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/" target="_blank">https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/</a><br>
<br>
There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed<br>
to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473</a><br>
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Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so many people are arguing
he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<<a href="https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location." target="_blank">https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.</a>><br>
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From: Andrew Davidson<<a href="mailto:theswavu@gmail.com">mailto:theswavu@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM<br>
To: Anthony Panozzo<<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">mailto:panozz@outlook.com</a>><br>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)<br>
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On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | OpenStreetMap<<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history</a>> he deleted a restriction
I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or traffic lights:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/" target="_blank">https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/</a><br>
<br>
There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473</a><br>
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Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so many people are arguing
he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG see this<br>
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<<a href="https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location." target="_blank">https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.</a>><br>
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And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an argument than care 1 bit about
the map<br>
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From: Andrew Davidson <<a href="mailto:theswavu@gmail.com">theswavu@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM<br>
To: Anthony Panozzo <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>><br>
Cc: OpenStreetMap <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)<br>
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On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:panozz@outlook.com">panozz@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | OpenStreetMap<<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history</a>> he deleted a restriction
I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or traffic lights:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/" target="_blank">https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/</a><br>
<br>
There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473</a><br>
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