<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Yes it is a longstanding issue: Is this shared path primarily a cycleway where pedestrians are allowed (highway=cycleway, foot=designated) or primarily a footpath ("mainly or exclusively for pedestrians") where bicycles are allowed (highway=footway, bicycle=yes)?</div><div><br></div><div>In most circumstances the 2 are equivalent.</div><div><br></div><div> - Ben Kelley.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 09:06, Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">OSM never really had a good tag for truly shared foot/cycle paths, so it's been long standing practice to use highway=cycleway + foot=designated + bicycle=designated + segregated=no for shared paths. So by adding the foot=designated and segregated=no tags they change highway=cycleway from a bicycle only path to a true shared path.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 07:29, Sebastian Azagra Flores via Talk-au <<a href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Using the tag <span style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">the tag highway = cycleway indicates </span><span style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">that the route is designated for bicycles only. </span><div><font size="3" face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" color="#202122"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In Victoria, this is hardly the case as most paths are generally signed as shared paths. I’ve yet to come across a dedicated cycle path during my riding. <br></span></font><br><div dir="ltr">regards,<div><br></div><div>Sebastian </div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 17 May 2022, at 6:15 pm, Andrew Davidson <<a href="mailto:theswavu@gmail.com" target="_blank">theswavu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>On 16/5/22 23:38, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Can I please clarify "using highway=cycleway should only be used where there are signs allowing"?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>That is how I've always used it in urban areas.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>This would only apply in NSW/VIC. In other jurisdictions putting up signs has become pointless because you can ride anywhere. In Canberra almost none of the shared path system has explicit signage. I use cycleway to tag "primary" routes and footway for "secondary" routes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So this would be a cycleway:</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Bike_path_in_Dickson%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg/576px-Bike_path_in_Dickson%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg" target="_blank">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Bike_path_in_Dickson%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg/576px-Bike_path_in_Dickson%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>and this is a footway:</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Footpath_in_Hackett%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg/576px-Footpath_in_Hackett%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg" target="_blank">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Footpath_in_Hackett%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg/576px-Footpath_in_Hackett%2C_Canberra%2C_Australia.jpg</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br clear="all"></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div>