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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/8/22 13:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at
17:31, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
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I have a similar difficulty with club=surf_life_saving, <br>
emergency=lifesaver, lifesaver=base ... as that does not
render. If put <br>
on the building then the name of the club renders.. Having
gone along the coast of NSW and put them to nodes and
entered a few more off the DCS Base Map .. I am now going
along and setting the details on the associated building...
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<div>Warin & I have discussed this topic recently on a
changeset: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123785819"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123785819</a>,
& are sort of in two minds about it, so it's probably a
good idea to put it out to get everybody's thoughts.</div>
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<div>I've recently finished tidying up & adding details
right along the GC beaches, including all the Surf Clubs.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">As most of you would know, Surf Clubs &
SLSCs are, more or less, two separate things - the Surf Club
is the social side of things, which houses the bar,
restaurant & Gaming Room, is usually open to the public,
seven days/week, from morning till late at night, & is
usually upstairs in the building.</div>
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<div>The actual SLSC / lifesavers are downstairs in that
building, where the First Aid room is located, are usually
only present Sa-Su 8-18 between Sept - April. They will
frequently have a different contact number / website/page to
the Surf Club.</div>
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<div>I have been tagging them like so: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41751839"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41751839</a>,
as a building named "xxx Surf Club", tagged as a club=
surf_life_saving; together with a separate node for the
SLSC: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5419450227"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5419450227</a>,
named "xxx SLSC", tagged as emergency=lifeguard +
lifeguard=base + leisure=sports_centre (which I know is
certainly not great, but is the only way I can find to
render the name as lifeguard doesn't render :-(), together
with their operating hours & contact details. <br>
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<div>So, what do we all think is the best option for having,
& showing, 2 lots of info for the same premises?<br>
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<p>That particular premises carries the name "Tugun SLSC" across the
top of the building as can be seen on their website
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/">http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/</a> <br>
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<p>The name "Tugun Surf Club" appears on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/bar-gaming/">http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/bar-gaming/</a>, but the URL says
tugunslsc and the banner at the top of the page says "Tugun Surf
Life Saving Club".</p>
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<p>I am of the view that the "Tugun Surf Club" is a simple
shortening of the "Tugun Surf Life Saving Club". <br>
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<p>The reason for placing the 'life saving' aspect on the building
is one of rendering .. it gets the SLSC name to appear. <br>
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<p>The bisatro cold be entered as a simple node with
amenity=restaurant , this does render, see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/bistro/">http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/bistro/</a> for contact details.. note no
"Tugun Surf Club" appears here<br>
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<p>The bar could be entered as amenity=licensed_club .. does not
render. The gambling as amenity = gambling, I don't know if this
renders I suspect not. <br>
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<p>The email addresses are all @tugunslsc.com.au and they all share
a common phone number.. thus I think they are not 2, 3 or 4
separate 'clubs' but one club with a few features. Much like a
bowls club, an RSL, a golf club .. etc etc. <br>
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