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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/8/22 18:15, Josh Marshall wrote:<br>
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<div class="">tl;dr - I’m interested in getting more
surfing-centric tagging into OSM, hopefully leading to an open
surfing map. And want to check on what would be appropriate. In
an analogous way to how cycling is treated, along with trail
running, my own sports of choice.</div>
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<p>Hi, welcome. <br>
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<div class="">The long story:</div>
My teenage son is quite the avid bodyboarder, and we just got back
from at weekend at the Aussie national championships in Port
Macquarie… Which leads into me realising as I try to wrap my head
around the sport, that there’s very little surfing-centric content
in OSM. Doubly strange in Australia. And we’re homeschooling, so…
hello geography, cartography, environment, etc, lessons.
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<div class="">I printed out a map of our local (Newcastle) beaches
using <a href="http://fieldpapers.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">fieldpapers.org</a>, and got him to
draw them in, then uploaded it. The FP page is here: <a
href="https://fieldpapers.org/snapshots/ubcffu8v"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://fieldpapers.org/snapshots/ubcffu8v</a>
but that doesn’t seem to display the output properly, download
the geotiff to view. Here’s the map tiles of it: <a
href="http://tiles.fieldpapers.org/snapshots/ubcffu8v/{z}/{x}/{y}.png"
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I looked up what was already present in OSM, and it centres on
the tag sport=surfing, <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dsurfing"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dsurfing</a> </div>
<div class="">According to the overpass query <a
href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1lgi"
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it is already applied to a few surf breaks (sometimes not very
precisely), surf shops, venues, and learn-to-surf organisations.
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<p>Mostly land based things. Can you give a few examples? <br>
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<p>I found this one,</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1009395310">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1009395310</a></p>
<p>looks to be both surfing sand swimming... <br>
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<div class="">Are there any concerns on me taking the idea and
running with it? It would be good at least to flesh out the
wiki page on what tags can or should be applied. I already
have a spreadsheet from the grommie on the various attributes
of a surf break (left and right waves, tide/swell/wind
required). Does this require a formal proposal? <br>
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<p>There are those that say yes to a formal proposal, others nay. <br>
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<p>You may have noticed my Hills Hoist thing.. I raised it here to
see what reaction I got and to seek ideas. I have now raised it on
the tagging group for more of an international view and will raise
it on the russian wiki page on the 'umbrella' tag. </p>
<p>I would think you may get some feed back here to start with..
then raise it on the talk page <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:sport%3Dsurfing">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:sport%3Dsurfing</a></p>
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<p>As the break would be a water feature I'd use a water tag
waterway=surf_break ??? That could be a way where the break first
occurs .. possibly sub tags such as break=left/right/* This would
be the physical feature for use with sport=surfing... <br>
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<p>Just my idea.. you may have more/different? <br>
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<div class="">My own pause relates to how even though surf
breaks are physical locations (would be mapped as either areas
or points), they are tied to underwater features and
topography such as reefs, not necessarily visible from the
surface. And so will rely heavily on local knowledge. But if
not rendered by default, there’s no problem with that, right?</div>
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The surf break may be visible on some of the satellite imagery.
Mapbox off Tamarama Beach, Sydney looks large. <br>
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