<div dir="ltr">Hi Frederik,<div><br></div><div>At first I was a little annoyed at what I thought to be obvious things to consider in your message, as what I am trying to do with this discussion is exactly to cover those issues... but I always run a little search first, and that very much changed my tune to saying I am quite honoured to have you reply to my little proposal. :)</div><div><br></div><div>I am also a non-surfer, but my son is approaching elite level (it's not from my side of the family), and so this is somewhat a collaborative effort, and he has become quite engaged by the thought of an open repository of information on surfing.</div><div><br></div><div>He has already prepared a spreadsheet with all the attributes required to describe a break, which are practically identical already to those suggested by Phil Wyatt in the response following yours. The primary "conditions" are swell direction and size, wind direction and tide. I have yet to fully think them through, but my instinction is to do it in a fashion similar to `:conditional` (<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions</a>), perhaps:</div><div><br></div><div>sport=surfing</div><div>surfing:conditional=swell-direction@NE-E;swell-size@3m+;wind@S-WSW (and so on)</div><div><br></div><div>Now in another sense this is getting a bit ahead of the game... I am thinking as a part of this there would need to be a dedicated map server+site for highlighting the surfing options (hopefully I will have the time for this)... and until there is I think it's okay to experiment with the tagging. Because in general a surfer would also be able to determine the conditions by looking at the map and a current weather forecast.</div><div><br></div><div>So I am collating all these thoughts, and will put them together into the discussion on the sport=surfing tag to take it forward, while doing a little experimentation in my local area.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Josh</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 20:48, Frederik Ramm <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
non-Australian and non-surfer here but please remember that stuff you <br>
map in OSM must be reasonably verifiable.<br>
<br>
If you map a great surf spot which only exists when some external <br>
conditions align, then it might be hard for others to verify (they'd <br>
have to wait for the conditions to align).<br>
<br>
As a non-surfer I would assume that "the wind and waves are just right" <br>
is something that could make a perfect surf spot nearly everywhere, and <br>
surfers would not be helped by a map showing lots of spots that might be <br>
great if "the wind and waves are just right" ;)<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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