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<p>Hi Will</p>
<p>Thank you for reaching out before starting, it's really
appreciated.</p>
<p>As Phil mentioned, a wiki page detailing the intentions, methods
and OSM editors is important. Here is Facebook's as an example:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/Facebook">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/Facebook</a></p>
<p>just a word of caution, when it comes to (semi-)automated edits
of the database: there has been in the past several examples of
conflicts between OSM volunteer editors and well-meaning
companies. Communication is primordial to avoid conflicts and
lasting bad reputation in the community because of community time
spent on fixing up dozens of changesets because the plan wasn't
discussed and tested enough before being executed.</p>
<p>Please keep in mind that I am not criticising business
involvement in editing the database, I am only hoping to minimise
potential conflict. Your ideas sound interesting and useful, and
again, you reaching out is very appreciated :)</p>
<p>About scraping media and housing development data, I guess the
legality of it needs to be thoroughly studied as it might be
perceived as a breach of copyright, but I'm not knowledgeable
enough to judge.</p>
<p>I agree with Phil that the established tasks can be something to
get started on, it could be a more guided way to introduce new
contributors to the database.<br>
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<p>Cheers<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/9/22 07:54, Phil Wyatt wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Welcome
aboard Will,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There
is no shortage of tasks to make a better Australian map in
OSM. There are plenty of map roulette challenges for
updating addresses, fixing deprecated tagging on features
and fixing road tagging to name just a few.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
href="https://maproulette.org/dashboard/"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://maproulette.org/dashboard/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
community is also very grateful for folks ‘in the know’ who
may be able to source data in truly open formats that can be
ingested into OSM using the normal import procedures or via
the RapID editor (for ESRI community layers)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
href="https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Esri-ArcGIS-FAQ"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Esri-ArcGIS-FAQ</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Esri/ArcGIS_Datasets"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Esri/ArcGIS_Datasets</a>
- as you can see there are no layers from Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a>
- import guidelines<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If
there is going to be concerted effort by Tom Tom then it
might also pay to have a read of the organised editing
guidelines and maybe set up a wiki page with some details of
the company intentions (and maybe a list of OSM editors that
will be editing on behalf of Tom Tom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
look forward to your edits and conversations in the mailing
lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers
– Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> William Ireland
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:William.Ireland@tomtom.com"><William.Ireland@tomtom.com></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 September 2022 10:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org">talk-au@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [talk-au] TomTom - OSM Collaboration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Australia OSM
Community,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My name is Will from
TomTom. From one mapper to another, I can say that we truly
admire how the OSM community collaborates to shape a map
product that benefits everyone, and we would love to be a
part of it. I would like to let you know that we are
planning on contributing to OSM by providing meaningful
leads to improve map quality and to locate missing features.
Some initial ideas include but are not limited to providing
leads from media sources extracted by our web scraping tool
or locating missing highways from new housing developments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We would love to hear
from you. What do you think of these ideas? And are there
any other areas where you need assistance or fields we can
collaborate on? We are open to all suggestions and ideas. As
for me, I am based here in Australia and happy to answer any
questions or be part of any discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Looking forward to
hearing from you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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